Wednesday, July 29, 2009

"Daddy, I want that"

In 1992 I walked away from that Arabian Horse Industry for good!

I made a decision that I would not take on anymore youth riders and their parents and I wanted to have nothing to do with the equitation part of training and showing as well and I wanted nothing more to do with the western/English "pleasure" part of it.

It was just a mentality that I was not wanting to deal with. The win at all costs without regards to the horses well being. Sanding their feet to a high gloss and shaving the horses damn near bald was in my mind, not in any way a benefit to the horse. But that was not all!

In 1992 I had a couple of youth riders showing in the Regional Arab show in Houston TX. We had 5 horses at the show, one of my riders was showing in the HUS class and my other rider was showing in the reining classes as well as the western pleasure classes. I had 3 adult amateur riders showing as well.

We would get to the show grounds early in the morning to take care of our horses and ride them around the grounds so they could have a good look around.

There was a trainer there with a horse that was also being shown by a youth rider who was friends with my riders. When we were in the arena working our horse this trainer was also in the arena working the girls mare as we left the arena the trainer was still working the mare who by now was sweating profusely. The trainer, in my opinion was abusive with his extensive use of the dressage bat that he loved to carry everywhere he went. Me being who I am said something to the trainer, who at that time decided to take the mare back to the barn.

Less than an hour later I saw this same trainer back on this mare in another arena working the shit out her. The whole time he was doing this, his rider and her parents stood by the rail and watched as this mare was worked into the ground. Finally a few hours later the trainer took the mare back to the barn to let her rest. From what I have heard the mare remained tacked and tied in her stall, but I am not sure of that. After the classes ended that day, this same trainer took this same mare out into the main arena and worked her well into the morning before putting her up. By the start of the days showing, this mare was dead!

And I will say that she was a really nice mare.

As far as to what actually killed this mare I am not sure and will not comment on it, though I have an idea what it was and that should be obvious. But that is not the point of this.

The point is, this was a mare that this girls father, from what I am told had paid over $120,000 so this girl could compete at a level that she wanted to compete at. When my youth rider went up to offer her friend her condolences on her mare. This young 12-14 year old girl looked my rider in the eye, smiled and said "That's OK, my daddy will buy me another horse".

That made me sick. Never in my life would I have ever imagined a child being taught that a life has only a monetary value and nothing more. I realized that day that there is a mind set out there that we have to win at all costs, no matter what.

But why?

I can tell you the I want my daughters to have everything they want or need, but they have to know that we can not always give them that. I refuse to buy them a win at a horse show or anywhere else. They are going to have to learn to lose graciously and win humbly. As do the rest of my riders. Yes we are into showing again and I do like to win, but I also know how to lose as that is part of this game.

Like everyone else, they are going to have to work hard and develop the skills that will help them achieve their goals. I still see it all of the time at shows, parents sparing no expense to give their child an over all advantage over other kids just for a blue ribbon.

I have heard parents tell trainers that they have spent a lot of money, so their precious child better win. It's no wonder trainers try to cheat their way into championships.

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horspoor said...

I know a good arab trainer. Elaine Kerrigan. No gimmicks, no drawreins, or other stuff. Oh wait, she doesn't show regular AHA, she does sport horse.

JohnieRotten said...

One more thing I need to add SFTS

the people that post here as I am sure you have noticed are of above average inteligence. So that means it is a little tough to pull a veil of bullshit over their eyes.

SFTS said...

GL wrote:
Does she do her own nails?
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Um, no. I doubt he gives himself a manicure, but *shrug* you never know.

But you still prefaced your discourse with "your farrier may not..."
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Since I already explained this previously, on several occasions, the article in question was written 15 years ago. There was a great deal of other terrific information in the article, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with hoof preparation, yet a few want to make that the central focus of the article and their argument.

Who do I trust? I trust my farriers and my amazing veterinarians as well as the specialists I consult with on medical issues. They are the professionals in their field ~ I am just a horse trainer.

You're right, there ARE some horrible looking feet out there. Big Brown anyone? And he won the Kentucky Derby........

FV, had you just stayed out of the fray I would have no harsh words for you at all. All of this gets tiring and yes, from time to time I do snap and lose my temper. I'm sorry about that.

I understand that you, and some here, "would not consider hoof sanding", and I not only appreciate that, I have no problem with your decision. Yet, because I am me, I get flamed for my decisions, and Hell, just for being me by a few because they've already made up their minds about me based on some blog comments and maybe peeking in on a "hot topic" on a forum dedicated to bashing and "free speech"?

You've stated you do not show horses ~ which is fine by me. I do, I enjoy it even though there are situations like JR expressed...they absolutely disgust and sicken me (and I've seen that sort of thing, too, I hate that it's out there). But I have seen people who were absolutely as abusive and horrible to their horses that are gaming people, barrel racers and even trail riders. Some of the worst abusers I've encountered are trail riders (like the asshat who ran his mare into the ground a few years back running her down a paved street until she collapsed).

You often comment about all the hard work you do , yet you are on this blog fairly steady during the day.
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It's Summertime. I live in the Mojave Desert where temperatures during the day often are well above 100 degrees. Yes, I do spend some time on my computer when it's too hot to be out riding horses and teaching kids to ride them.

You're absolutely right about this "pissing match", it is pathetic. But on that count, and I'll get flamed for this too, why am I the only one who gets chastised for playing a role here? Because I'm the black sheep? I don't fit in with the clique?

In closing, I am always a lady when it is warranted and I've not been flamed or attacked. Perhaps you can be openminded enough to see that.

Hoof Kisser wrote:
A pain in my asp.
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Why would that be? Because I now have my arena panels back home with me where they belong? Inquiring minds are sick of inquiring.

horspoor said...

Ever the explanation, and rationalization. I have a teen at home...I can handle this. lmao.

SFTS said...

JohnieRotten wrote:
You seem to feel the need to explain what you are doing all day, and to be quite honest, if you would stop doing that people would net question what you are doing. This only seems to make people think that you really have nothing to do during the day.
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See, this again goes back to the fact that I am not allowed to do as others do. Dena? Freely rants on about her day, what she's doing, what she has done and what she has yet to do. But I'm the one skewered for doing much the same. Ditto on so much more concerning Dena. As I said to you before, "Golden Child" who can do no wrong here. Okay, I'm fine with that. She may not get that sort of adulation anywhere else and it obviously empowers her and makes her feel better about herself.

If "people" think I really have nothing to do during the day, maybe they should stop worrying so damn much about me and spend some time in their own lives? Maybe?

As an aside, I may not own this place, however we do rent it, we keep our personal horses here and we perform 99.9% of the maintenance overall. So, I get you about the "doing things around the ranch" part. Got that covered (and thankfully I have a husband who's a good hand with that sort of thing and his schedule, though busy with his own business, can be somewhat flexible).

There really is nothing wrong with admitting that the bad economy has hit you too. It sure has hit me and even though I get a lot of calls about trianing, people really can not afford it now.
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We've covered that "bad economy" thing on FHOTD. It's definitely hit most of us, myself included. But oddly enough, my business of late (past few months) has been picking up a great deal. Not to mention former clients coming back in droves as their individual lives start to get better in the economy.

As far as the grooming thing goes, such as the sanding end of it. If you find yourself constantly defending what you are doing, then there may be something that is really wrong with it.
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I have only had to constantly defended what I am doing in the way of *grooming* to this very small, very select small group of friends here on this blog (some of course who have their own blogs). My impression, at least from the questions I have received from several folks, is that it's all about discussion, not anyone's need to defend.

But that may just be the way I and the more rational posters see it. So be it. If anyone wants to discuss things without the flaming (veiled snarkiness or not), I'm game.

SFTS said...

I am a long time QH guy and I went into the Arabians right out of high school because at the time there was more money in the Arabs. But the is one thing that has always bothered me aobut the Arabian horse industry, and that was that the training methods as well as the grooming methods always seemed child like to me. With the grooming end of it, the grooms always struck me as teens that should be home grooming their barbies.
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That is one thing I never did and would never do ~ go into a training field just because that's where the money is. Never. My dedication to the Arabian horse has never waned, always been steadfast because of these incredible animals themselves. Do some trainers in this industry over do it? Sure. That goes on in every breed, every discipline. The same goes for grooming. But it's tit-for-tat, really. And I know I'm the underdog amongst your groupies. That's fine with me, too.

As far as the training goes, well, I showed reiners and cow horses as a young lad and I learned to start and train horse from and old cowboy that knew what he was doing. When I got to the arabs, the trainers with the exeption of a few, were way behind in their methods. It was like they never really learned how to do things without training aids and so forth.

Now, I do not mean to offend anyone, but I just had to get that out there. I am sure that there are good arab trainers out there!

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I don't find that statement offensive, it's simply your own personal point of view and your opinion. We all have them...

Yes, there are some wonderful Arabian trainers out there, including some that don't focus exclusively on the Sport Horse disciplines (though there are a number of those whom I admire as well). Just as there are some good cutting horse trainers out there, too, and those who train horses in other breeds and other disciplines as well.

One more thing I need to add SFTS

the people that post here as I am sure you have noticed are of above average inteligence. So that means it is a little tough to pull a veil of bullshit over their eyes.

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Some of them, yes. Others are quite juvenile and junior high schoolish. But I enjoy quite a number of them ~ those who have something intelligent to add and don't jump on the bandwagon just to fit in.

SFTS said...

>>> "I have a teen at home...I can handle this. lmao." <<<

This is exactly what I was referring to above........in a nutshell.

horspoor said...

That would be fine SFTS. People have tried to have real conversations and discussions with you. You always reply with some 'semi hidden' snark. Always playing a game of one ups-manship. It gets old. I'm tired of it. You aren't that smart. You're very transparent as a matter of fact.

When you evolve to the point that you can feel good about yourself, without having to bash someone to make yourself feel good...we might be able to have a real conversation. Until then it's just smacking the mouse...waiting for it to revive a bit so I can smack it again when it moves.

Yeah, thats me the follower. It is ever so important for me to fit in. I live for popularity and my shot at 15 minutes of fame. I do have difficulty forming an opinion or thought of my own.

mmmhhhhmmm.

Keep telling yourself that. It may make it easier to take the fact that you piss this many people off on an individual basis. Much easier to chalk it up to mob mentality.

horspoor said...

Okay, I'm done. Tired of pounding my head into this particular wall.

Now don't go...you agree, how stupid this is...how you are so above it...and are only defending yourself. That horse wont run. Just leave it.

CharlesCityCat said...

HP:

Smacking the mouse? That really cracked me up. Thanks, I needed that!

SFTS said...

Aaah, gotcha. Do as I say, not as I do. I understand now.

CharlesCityCat said...

That seems highly unlikely.

horspoor said...

Yeah, CCC it is. But she'll never get it. Leave it. Time to cut bait. Said I was done with slamming my head into this particular wall. I'm done.

CharlesCityCat said...

Over and Out Ma Capitain!!!

Dena said...

I am "golden". I know this. My friends are "golden" I certainly hope they know that.
I am sometimes funny. They most always are.
And I am not too shallow. And neither are they.
My friends have character. And integrity.
Occasionally they tell me to behave.
But neither do they truly censor me if I do not.
Please refer to the I am sometimes funny part.
I find this to be true in my real as well.
Because my friends here are my friends in real life as well.
And I have many more.
I am blessed in my friends. And inordinately picky in the choosing of.
I have no desire to be associated with someone who thinks their value is above all others.
And therefore is an excuse and rationalization for all the wrong that they do.
I have no desire to be associated with a venal and jealous bitch.
One so filled with envy that nothing is sacred.
Except her own delusions most likely enhanced by another poor choice in life.
GL chores take me a long time too. I want to check everything. I want to touch. I want to watch. Examine and commune.
bhm I would never cause you to be imtimidated or turn you into a celapod.
But I know that GL has your best interests at heart.
FV you would have to be one of my little friends with a very grand heart. But as that is an absolute requirement how could you be anything other than dainty?
HP a benevolent bitch? I love that.
SFTS we don't like you. I can say that. Because the posts reflect that.
I don't like you because you are neither stable or trustworthy in your expressions.
You lie about everything...
Who wants to be friends with a liar?
The only attacks you are addressing are the ones that show everything you present to be illusion.
I said it before and I will say it again.
No one can help you because according to you everything is wonderful.
So perhaps, it is time for you to go find a board that involves others like yourself.
You have not been kicked off horsetopia yet have you?
Try there.
Because one of these days you are going to piss me and I am going to let fly.
And as I am "golden" I imagine the consequences to me will be minimal if anything at all.
What part don't you understand that "WE" don't want you here?
And sorry but Kaede's defense doesn't guarantee you standing. It isn't her blog.
JR I want this irritant out of my room by the time I get back.
Please.
I know you kicked her out yesterday.
Now see I could have called her a toxic twat but I didn't.
Because I am above that.
I should be rewarded for my efforts at reform.
Did I mention I am "golden" because people actually like me?
That is the difference that she fails to recognize.

bhm said...

Dena,
That's ok. An extra tentacle or two never hurt anyone.

Kaede said...

Dena wrote:
"And sorry but Kaede's defense doesn't guarantee you standing. It isn't her blog."

I just got back from visiting my 91 year old mom in DC. [Great food city DC. In one block from Mom's apartment(Mom lives on her own)I could eat Turkish, Thai, Mexican, Indian, African, American "cooked to your preference" hamburgers with any toppings you could want on the burger, Japanese, Hunan, Then I ran out of days...Sigh. CnJ Mom and I ate your beer batter pancakes, I used Russian River Brewing 'Pliny the Elder' IPA. Very good.] I was catching up on email and came over here to see what was going on. Same old same old.

Dena, leave me OUT of you fights. Please don't drag my name or any of your assumptions that my life is "hard" into your arguments.

"But as she has lived through and beyond Aspergers it is not too big of a stretch to get that she may have a higher tolerance for what the rest of us might not."

All in all I've been blessed with my kids thorny one and all. Many kids by the time they are 19 have "rap" sheets as long as your arm. This is especially true in large cities where I choose to live. Drugs dealing,prostitution, murder,theft, child abuse,gang activity. I KNOW teens who are in prison at 17! for the rest of their life. They were tried as an adult. Try comforting a mother whose baby boy (age 17 at the time of the crime)is going to spend the rest of his natural life in jail because of a drug deal gone wrong.

My son may freak over green veggies being in the same room with him, or when "his" chair in a class room being a micron out of place, but he has never given me any worries that he would be involved in antisocial behavior. Leave me out of your arguments.

JR on a different note, have you tried the "Drivers and Restrainers" method of figuring out where to move?
In trying to get a big corporation to do something it can be useful to split a whiteboard (or a piece of paper) down the middle and on the left side write all the "drivers" down. Drivers are reasons pushing a decision
It too hot in AZ
Our business is suffering in AZ economy
We want a place that isn't so over crowded with QH trainers
We want to see grass

On the other side of the whiteboard you put down the "restrainers" the things that keep you from making the decision
Grandma and Grandpa are here
My friends and clients are here
A large network of knowledgeable QH trainers to get support from.

After that you balance out the drivers and restrainers
Grandma and Grandpa being near is canceled out by the hot weather.
A large network of knowledgeable QH trainers to get support from is canceled out by We want a place that isn't so over crowded with QH trainers
Eventually you should find the biggest drivers (Good school system, better weather and green grass) and this will let you know what you are looking for in a move. Arkansas say, or Nashville, TN.

Dena said...

Kaede my reference was directed solely in that your life experience may have caused you to refine your patience to a higher degree.
The only reference to tolerance was with regard to SFTS.
If you misinterpreted that I shall apologize for that.
And that alone.
As you have made quite a point of defending and blithely dismissing the source of what causes the greatest offense here I feel no need to apologize for stating the fact that your approval will not necessarily gain another tenure.
I find it somewhat hypocritical that you would jump up my ass when you have made exactly how many presentations that either were to me or simply used me to illustrate your point?
Did it perhaps escape your attention that I too read fwotd?
And if you have yourself bent over an imagined slam or misinterpreted reference stating tolerance?
Again it was in direct reference to SFTS. Not children or adults that have unique needs.
You have never had my pity. And I have never made any inference that I believe your life to be hard.
Nope. Sorry. I tend to reserve my pity for those to deluded to face their situations head on.
My sympathy is reserved for the helpless.
You don't qualify on either account.
I am thinking perhaps we should both refrain from referencing each other.
To be honest these days I have no clue who you are anyhow.

SFTS said...

>>> "Because one of these days you are going to piss me and I am going to let fly. And as I am "golden" I imagine the consequences to me will be minimal if anything at all." <<<

Good God, Dena...GIVE IT A REST FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE LIFE.

How classy of you to turn on Kaede and viciously attack her.

That your few friends would continue to support you when you pull that sort of stunt boggles the mind.

What a lovely bunch you are.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Jesus H Christ, what a clusterfuck.

I am floored at the number of people elevating Dena to "goddess" status. AFAIK she rents HER property (a quonset hut per her multiple blogs) too, JR, so the slap at SFTS can also be applied to your new best friend. Your dear friend who has 18 horses and has to beg for money to pay the phone bill on ABR... and who you and others encouraged to buy yet another horse. Good job there.

Dena, can you explain why you had to shoot your dog? Inquiring minds would like to know why a trip to the vet wasn't in order. Unless you couldn't afford it on your WalMart salary. Wasn't it you who made sure we knew that FHOTD worked at PetSmart?

SFTS, your repetitive posting about how lucky and blessed you are to have such wonderful students and vet and farriers is getting old. It sounds like you have made it through a tough period in your life and are attempting to rebuild. If everyone can forgive Dena for having a crack baby and losing 6 kids to the state, I don't understand why the same level of forgiveness can't be extended to you, but I am guessing it is your continual "I'm so great" posting style. Ratchet that back a bit and concentrate on sharing the vast horse knowledge you have and maybe things will go smoother. Like hooves. Haha.

As for all the other posters, you're all guilty of being assholes just as much as I am in this post. The sniping at SFTS, the calling her "IT", can you say DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO. If you just ignore SFTS as you lecture her to do to everyone else, the shitstorm gets diffused just as nicely. Except that you would have to control yourself and not post snipey personal attacks.

I don't have a horse in this fight, I don't even own a horse, so go ahead and write me off (or if you're Dena, get a subpoena to find out my IP address so you can sue me or get my internet taken away). I'm off to work, yes I do have a job and it pays damn well, yes I rent my house but I've paid off over $40k in debt over the past 6 years. That's right, I'm a responsible adult who is trying to get her life in order BEFORE getting a horse or nineteen. Over and out.

SFTS said...

For the most part, I always thought better of you, too, HP.

What I see now is that you don't have any intention of looking toward actually having dialogue and reading beyond everything else. You deride. You snark. You poke with a stick and expect that I'm not going to blow my lid. I am sorry, but I'm just not that strong sometimes.

Would you actually try, you might find yourself surprised. I'm not holding my breath.

C_S_E (I'm sure Dena will be arriving shortly to snicker about your screenname again), I have tried. I've tried everything, from being nice, sugar-sweet and happy with small details about how things were going, as everyone else does [got slammed for that], to offering training tips and suggestions when people ask questions [got slammed for that, too], to saying condolences, offering moral support/hugs when needed [got slammed for that as well], to just trying to jump into whatever relevant or pertinent conversation was going on at the time. I always get slammed and flamed, no matter what I post. To hear Dena tell it, that's because she hates me, so we can only surmise that the few folks here who like her follow her lead and will try to make me go away at all cost ~ even to this blog itself.

To hear Dena tell it, and she's apparently convinced her friends that it's so, I am delusional and have no clients, no students and no friends, that I horribly abuse my horses and that I am the Devil Incarnate.

I can assure you none of the above is true.

They will go on believing what they wish to believe, spreading their malicious gossip and rumor not knowing from where it came or even why.

I am only here now for one reason and one reason alone: To defend against TheLiar (masquerading as "Truth") should he return.

The rest can carry on with their cyber beatings. I know they will.

SFTS said...

Btw, welcome back Kaede! Glad you had a nice visit with your mom. :)

sam said...

as to STFS and Dena. many have made comments about them having Narcissitic Personatility Disorder. and i agree. they are both poster girls for the disorder. and some other undesirable traits as well. but what hasn't been mentioned is that narcissists need a supply - somone to give them what they need, which is to feel worshipped and adored. to be told they are so special. so wonderful. so much more that anyone else could ever hope to be. and this blog is one of their many supplies. it feeds them, it whips them into a frenzy. i feel bad for the people in their lives, especially after the blog has them in a full blown narcissitic rant. both of them will never change unless they want to, with years of therapy. there are no drugs to cure this. but they are not special and better than the rest of us, they are just ordinary people. and that fact just kills them. especially when their lives are so screwed up and so public. and Dena - your children are going to need a life time of therapy and a lot of work to get over what you have done to them and what you continue to do to them every day. i can not imagine what it must be like to be such a failure as a mother that the state has tken away so many children on multiple occasions. what a piece of work you are. you remind me of my alcoholic husband when he was sober for a few years - a big ol' chip on your shoulder because you can't party like you want to. so everyone else will pay the price. and since you and STFS will probably say i don't know what i'm talking about, i was the supply for my mother, who had Narcisssitic Personality disorder. i was her supply for 50 years, until the day she died. so from a recovering "supply" - Dena and STFS - GET HELP NOW. you are truly damaging everyone you come in contact with. and the more of a relationship you have, the more damage you do. stop showing your asses on the internet and get your lives in order.

PrairieFarmer said...

Ya know, for the most part I figure any of us that spends much time on these blog postings (myself included) has got to have a little bit of a screw loose. Otherwise, why so much time conversing when computerized pals?
I just wish we could spend a little less time arguing over who is the screwiest.

cattypex said...

Wow... miss a weekend, miss a lot!

I think that they need to go sit on the Naughty Step and think about it for awhile.

Or something. I dunno, I had to skip like 250 posts because... well, because.

Dena said...

You know I only found one thing worth answering.
I am not a renter. Nope hate to break it to the dumbshit with the really classy name.
When you lead out with a provable lie it makes the rest not even worth the read.

And sam I could party whenever I choose. I simply choose not to.
I find that not even drugs or alcohol can make the experience of some people tolerable so why bother.

Thanks for the dime store diagnosis.

I have 19 horses? Who knew?

GoLightly said...

I keep telling people..
Paragraphs are your friend.
Do they listen??
noooooooooo.

(DANG, my screws just fell out)
(aGain)

You have to learn to condense. It's an art.
I'm STILL working on it.

PF, in my daily life, I rarely see/talk/text women. Most of my BFF's are far away now. I'm "stuck" talking to men all day.

Except for JR, a very brave guy, btw, to marry a red-head, we is females here. Most horsed, some not. Like me.
Oh, and Leonard of course.

BHM once told me, it's like writing letters. I do enjoy it. I seem to hear kindred spirits out there, or not. It's cool.
NPD (narcissistic blahblah) is true for ANYone, who gets a small thrill that first time someone out there answers you. Everyone likes to be listened to.

Agreed, when bile is spewed, it's a different type of thrill.
In my overly sensitive case, my heart just about burst. It's amazing to me, as an old fart, how freely people will attack others on the net, but would never dream of saying boo to a goose the rest of the time.

So yes, it's got to be hard. And I do apologize for being short-tempered, but I do have to react when I read stuff...

Yes, like hoof-sanding, SFTS. I'm not holding you responsible for the idiocies of the show-ring.
I'd NEVER heard of it. How would you feel?
Same with the twelve million new breeds of QH. And how much the breeds I knew and loved have changed.
I had the same WTF?? moment.

You can do a great deal of good with an educational blog. I didn't mention anything else, because I don't need to read the beginner basics of how to care for a horse.
People sure do need to know, though.
I will say that beginners shouldn't be too worried about hooves and their shininess.

I think I will go sit in my corner again.
It's MY corner!!!

keep OUT!

<")
Only 174 more posts to break a thousand, sheeple!!
Oh, CNJ, next post of mine will include those murderous things I mentioned.

Chocolate is the best drug there is.
Just sayin'.

bhm said...

Hi, GL. Hi, Dena. (waves a tentacle)

PrairieFarmer said...

mmmm....chocolate........

catpoop sez enuff said...

Dena sez:
"You know I only found one thing worth answering.
I am not a renter. Nope hate to break it to the dumbshit with the really classy name.
When you lead out with a provable lie it makes the rest not even worth the read.
* snip*
I have 19 horses? Who knew?"

Dena, I owe you a big apology. I thought I remembered you saying on FHOTD that you had 19 horses, but since the comments are disabled I can't go back and find where you said it. Here it seems to say that you have 19 horses: " "From: ifubelieve
10/22/2008 7:30 pm
To: ALL (1 of 97)

29759.1


Hello Fans of Barbaro,
We are a under construction not for profit LLC. While, we may be new to some of you, I say, "some", because, every day has the power to convince me, that, there are truly occasions, where, the world is no bigger than my backyard, we are not new to the horses, ponies, mules, no donkies yet, in need.
We are located in Brownton, MN. We had until recently, covered all expenses with our personal funds. Our performance horses subsidized our challenged beauties.
* snip *
We currently have assisted 45 equines in the last 12 months, ***have 14 current residents, with 5 new additions coming this week.*** We have 2 new faces coming to be shared with us by the wonderful ladies at Great Expectations Ranch. They are currently listed on their website under rehab horses, "Pappy and Cutter". Please do take a look also under for sale, and you will find a young man named "Jericho", these are 3 of our latest additions coming on Saturday."
http://forums.prospero.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=29759.33"

Silly me added 14 plus 5 and got nineteen.

Then again maybe I was thinking of this one:
""I still have all of the same animals that I did in October of 2008. I am not the subject of any type of negative Humane action."
http://upyourssunshine.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-05-14T19%3A30%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7 "

So here I was stupidly assuming that 19 = 19.

BUT I WAS WRONG!!!

Dena writes: "CNJ I have never had sushi in my life.
Unless, you count starkist.
I know I am a real peasant.

17 is the number. I hate even putting that in print.

Based on economy I would like to be down to 3.
As if."

http://mrrottensneighborhood.blogspot.com/2009/06/rotten-neighborhood-friday-night-free.html?showComment=1245471357340#c4443593963893219485

I am so sorry! 17 is obviously not 19. Seventeen horses is completely normal when you can't afford to keep the lights on. NINETEEN would be simply crazy.

I apologize heartily for my error.

And I must apologize again, I forgot the rule that renting = poor and not worth squat, and that owning = a good person. I guess I was thinking back to when you represented your trailer park (www.ci.litchfield.mn.us/.../%7BB93D1E1B-82C4-4DA5-BEF2-6F347DD835C6%7D.PDF) or those pesky evictions you have on your record. Totally my bad. How's probation treating you these days?

So, folks, Dena has proven that everything I write is not to be paid attention to! Carry on!

joanna said...

Why do I read this blog and sometimes post? Simply because all of my friends are normal, drama free people.

This blog makes me appreciate them so much more.

Thanks, GL, for the chocolate idea. I'm trying to lose weight, ya know.

Cut-N-Jump said...

*sniff*sniff*sniff*

Hmmm, familiar...

Ah yes, BULLSHIT! No wonder why my meter was off the charts. sfts has been at it again. And no, the letters do not warrant being capitalized.

Since you claim you are losing respect for me, I think it's only fair for me to say I have long since lost any and all respect for you.

Yes, we did exchange emails and even phone numbers. Yes, I did cease all contact, other than on the blogs. If you feel this was in any way, in direct relation to me being in contact with any others posting comments, you are sadly mistaken. I ceased contact with you when I began noticing things that just don't add up.

Like your recent claims of multitudes of adoring clients and their glowing reviews of your talents and knowledge. *hork* Yet if you are "loved by so many" as you claim to be, why then, pray do tell, would your family be subjected to sharing a camp trailer without restroom facilities? Where are your adoring clients and fans, in your greatest time of need? Surely they would be clamoring at your feet to offer you better living arrangements!

You were in court two weeks ago with the Tally's trying to reach an agreement about you getting your property back. Property that you stated is "worth tens of thousands of dollars". Laughable at best, as anyone with a shred of common sense may have sold part or all of that to pay rent for a suitable living space with restroom facilities, long before you were reduced to living in self inflicted squalor. When you say, "Cry me a fucking river!" is that so you'll have free, running water perhaps?

When the Tallys paid for the hay your horses were fed, "at their insistence" as you proclaim, that tells me it is because you had none of your own and no money to pay for any. Obviously someone besides you, clearly had the best interest of your horses at heart. Lucky for them!


You claim my husband has to defend me. Not hardly. Just how long are your arms? You're really reaching on that one. Supporting someone is far different from defending them, but seeing how your comprehension skills have long since vacated the premises between your ears, nobody here is surprised you missed that too. He does not need to defend me, as I do not say or do things I cannot rely on anyone but myself to back. If he feels the need to jump in and say anything- that's entirely up to him.

When he requested you no longer post on the other blog and you blamed me and I really don't fucking care. Water off a ducks back as you have proven again, under the mantra you seem to live by- "Nothing is ever your fault". You were asked to no longer post there for a number of reasons and a decision he alone, made. My husband is capable of doing things of his own accord. The fact that he declined to lay everything out for everyone to read, has struck a nerve. As you have stated a few times- "I do not owe anyone an explanation"- neither does he, so piss off!

You question my credibility? I am still laughing hysterically at that one. I probably will be for some time. Since laughing is something that only crazy people do, then there’s a bunch of us that must be really fucking nuts! At least we should be a fun bunch.

The fact that the police were called to a horse show and you were one of the parties involved, clearly shows you lack the ability to behave in public or like an adult, let alone the "professional" you proclaim yourself to be.

I have not joined in the shit slinging that has been ongoing; as I feel at this point it is not funny, but no longer even sad either. It is only slightly different than the very same bullying and intimidating behavior that you have also displayed towards another. The only differences are the ages of everyone involved and the fact that unlike your own prey, you keep coming back and throwing fuel on the fire surrounding you.

You truly need help; though I am not sure what kind would be the most beneficial at this stage. As someone else told me though, you won't find that help on the Internet.

horspoor said...

Oh and just an FYI not directed at anyone in particular (seriously this is for everyones' well being)...an observation. Not based in fact, just from watching for the past couple years.

JR doesn't protect or defend CNJ...he tends to uh...restrain her. lmao And I mean that in the kindest way CNJ. I don't think dying your hair brown would even begin to help.

JohnieRotten said...

Just so you all know. I am a red head too. Not as red as CnJ but I was born with red hair and it shows in sometimes. When I grow a moustache or beard they come in red. Well actually Red and Gray now!

But yes CNJ is a force to be reckoned with!

Dena said...

CnJ I posted pictures of a pretty pony for you and YOUR husband.
About time someone clarified that.
It always annoyed me the clingy JJJJJJRRRRRR references as though there were some type of claim being made.
By someone who had no right.
Not respecting some basic real life boundaries and considerations do not tend to make for popularity.
CnJ you are funny. Go look at my pony. HP you too.
Let's stop playing in the contaminated puddle.

Dena said...

bhm how incredibly remiss of me. Waves Hi back.

nccatnip said...

STFS- I am sure my post is in vain but what the hell? I am dying my roots as my red turned gray and I am a bit bored.

I have been reading your posts since you first appeared on Fugly and watched you slowly turn into a know it all shrew and alienate pretty much anyone who ever agreed with you with your condesending tone and bossy manner.

You have dictated all internet rules as you see them, deemed anyone without a profile worthless and constantly remind everyone here of JR's requests as if he cannot speak for himself. First grade much?

Guess what? Alot of us here NEVER even look at a profile and could care less when it was created or if it is even viewable. But we read the comments and usually there is some validity to them.

It is incredible that you continue to feel the need to "duke" it out and air your dirty laundry in public.

For the sake of your child, just stop, FCS. You are causing as much harm as the ones you sling crap at.

The only point you are proving is that you are unstable and dishonest. You are not defending shit.

Step away from the computer and spend some time with your child that does not involve fighting with neighbors, landlords, random internet strangers. Take her to a park instead of a courthouse. Get a honest paying job and show her that you can raise yourself out of living in a travel trailer with no plumbing and existing only because of the kindness of strangers.
Get rid of the four horses, including your dream horse and spend that money on decent housing for your child. Sell the show clothes and put a deposit down on a home that is not on wheels for your daughter. At 16, she will not be with you long, but her memory of this time in her life will last her entire lifetime.

Be the parent she can be proud of, the parent that gave up unselfishly just for her.

For if you do not, you are as bad as every ugly thing you EVER said about anyone else's parenting skills and history.

Carry on, for I am sure you will.

Kaede said...

My name means "maple" in Japanese. Maples turn red in the fall, does that count?
The meaning can vary with what radicals in Kanji you use. If you just use plain ol' Hirigana or Romanji (like now) Kaede means "Maple". Everything becomes "fluid" in Kanji.

horspoor said...

I have the redheads skin, just didn't get the hair. Both of my brothers are redheads. I kind of got jipped.

Dena said...

JR I did not mean your blog was a contaminated puddle.
Just the thread.

And someone should learn to read with comprehension. I represented a trailer park that we held the commercial clean up contract on to bring it up to code.
Neither do I live in a quanset. And I have indoor plumbing.
My eviction record? The one where I was paid damages?
And to the best of my knowledge we do not even have 17 horses now.
The theory was to rehome. Duh...

Thanks for cheering me on guys to buy one hell of a performance prospect that already has 3 people in line for her!
WooHoo!!!

JohnieRotten said...

I know what you meant Dena. I was not serious.

GoLightly said...

Dang, people, we'll NEVER break a thousand this way!
Only 159 to go!

Oh, to the kitty litter lady, good grief, where have you been?
That's SUCH old "news." Inaccuracy is sooo
(yawn)
Try to stay in this year, at least.
2009?
hello?

JR is a red-head TOO??

I cower before a quad of red-heads.

My hero rider of all time, Rodney Jenkins, is a red-head.
(sigh)

10% of the entire population of the world, people.
RedHeads (should) RULE.

158 to go...

C'mon, show a little Gloves spirit, will ya?

(smacks BHM's tentacle)
I warned you, BHM...
Cephalopods. Can't take them ANYwhere..

Oh, I posted the exercises, CNJ.
(cracks whip)

Gimme 20, BHM!
One tentacle at a time.
Cheating will achieve amputation.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Dena spewed: "And to the best of my knowledge we do not even have 17 horses now.
The theory was to rehome. Duh..."

Um... do you think you should know how many horses you have? And how many have you rehomed since you posted that you had 17 on July 19th? Seriously.

Dena burbled: "Thanks for cheering me on guys to buy one hell of a performance prospect that already has 3 people in line for her!
WooHoo!!!"

Right. The horse you plan on having a young family member bring up and show. That counts as "having" the horse until you sell it. You're sounding like SFTS with your "3 people in line for her!!" crap. Wait, let me guess, you're blessed to have her and her wonderful lovely ever-so-popular self!

http://livingbeyondthebream.blogspot.com/2009/08/miss-placed-pantees.html

I never said you lived in a quonset hut. The horses seem to live in the quonset hut. According to you, you have 4 stalls and 4 temporary pipe stalls in your quonset hut for your mysterious and constantly changing number of horses. You have also stated that you do not have "real heat" in much of your personal dwelling. I can find the link if you want. When I read things I remember them.

As for GoLightly's "That's SUCH old "news." Inaccuracy is sooo
(yawn)
Try to stay in this year, at least.
2009?
hello?"

I guess that just leaves me the highway littering citation. Oh and this: http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1611879415 It's in the public record and easily accessible. People should know what they are getting into when they so ardently take a side. Good job, GL! Gonna post bail next time for her?

Hey, who takes care of the 17 horses when you're in jail?

I am still perplexed as to the level of support that people are giving a convicted felon with too many horses and not enough money. I am not an SFTS fan either but she seems to have a reasonable number of horses for her circumstances.

Then again, my posting name is stupid, so obviously anything I write is as well.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Apologies if my link doesn't work...
http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx
Case No. 43-CR-08-1363

Interesting.

GoLightly said...

Take a side? What "side"?
Anybody else see a side??
Have you nothing better to do, is the question.

Maybe take care of your horses?

nah, spewage is SO much more fun.
Cat # ??
"my posting name is stupid"

You said it, not me.

GoLightly said...

Got anything relevantly horsey to say?
I didn't think so.
846th!
HAH!

What precise level of support do you take umbrage to, anyway?
I guess all my millions didn't help, Dena.
Sorry.
Good luck to everyone out there.
Boy, are you gonna NEED it.

Cat people.
(shivers)

SFTS said...

LOL...I haven't ventured near this blog for more than 24 hours, didn't have time to even look at a computer yesterday from 6:45 AM until 10:45 PM, and come back this morning to find that a few of you are still at it about me?

cattypex said...

Kaede, you are full of smarts.

Redheads? I was born with beige hair, but I took care of that a few years ago. My great-grandfather was known as the "9-toed red-haired Irish sumbitch" in his hometown.



Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance.

SFTS said...

Cunt-N-Jump wrote:
sfts has been at it again

A few facts for the misguided redhead as well ~ as mentioned to the catnip above, we have restroom facilities. Ya know, like a sink, a toilet and a shower. WOW! Who would have thunk it!! Dayum, we're doing GREAT, because we have TWO sinks! *eyeroll*

Now, why did we live in the older trailer (actually truck bed camper) before? Because we were invited to live on site at the facility I was training horses out of and purchased it for two reasons. One, to live on the farm. Two, so we would be able to cut back on horse show hotel bills and therefore be able to charge my clients less money. Oh, and there were restroom facilities on site at the ranch and we used them!

Court two weeks ago...yes indeed. Won that suit and are in the process of getting our property back. Like my arena this past weekend~ Have you priced pipe panels lately? Or tack? Or power tools? Or........

Someone else paying for my horses' feed...oh, please. Is that the best you can come up with? Gosh, I've been doing just fine in paying for and providing for my horses. Again, who would have ever thought it possible! [snark]

I find it humorous that you need to go into a long, rambling vent about how your husband doesn't have to defend you, blah blah blah. As if I care. It was funny!

>>> "The fact that the police were called to a horse show and you were one of the parties involved, clearly shows you lack the ability to behave in public or like an adult, let alone the "professional" you proclaim yourself to be." <<<

LMAO...oh, yes, indeed! Shall I post all the emails you wrote to me about the certain someone you're now claiming that I "bullied and intimidated"?

A word of advice ~ if you're going to spew bullshit, maybe you should have a clear grasp of the facts. You know, it's no fun to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. That's why it's usually just not worth it to go there with you.

SFTS said...

catnip, you are free to hold your opinion, and I certainly am not going to even attempt to change your mind.

But it is seriously amazing that you would harp at me for the exact things others do, but as I've noticed all too often here, it's a so as I say and not as I do world.

Do not bring my child into your pissing match. I am a parent that she is VERY proud of. Keep your bile to yourself.

Facts:

"Unstable and dishonest". LOL! Right...and you ascertained this from reading posts on a blog dedicated to fighting and spewing verbal vomit? Good job!

"Honest paying job". Um, last I checked I have one of those...reading comprehension FAIL.

"Trailer with no plumbing", "Existing because of the kindness of strangers". Uh, we have plumbing in our home...Yeah! Even that fancy, schmancy plumbing of the indoors variety! And while there are some very kind, wonderful people in our lives, none of them are strangers. Just so you know.

SFTS said...

GL, it amazes me some who throw terms like "mental disorder", "mental illness", "mentally ill" and so forth with their own records.

>>> "It's amazing to me, as an old fart, how freely people will attack others on the net, but would never dream of saying boo to a goose the rest of the time." <<<

Agreed. But it is so very easy, especially with Google's Blogger to attack anonymously and I guess that comforts people.

On the hoof sanding and the idiocies of the show ring ~ yes, there are a lot of them. Some things we do because we must, though my policy is and always has been that we (in my barn at least) do nothing which will harm the horse, ever. Horses I have had and shown for 20+ years that are sound and healthy after having been hoof sanded for many of those years I believe speaks volumes. You may not agree. No one has to agree. But many do.

My blog is intended to be educational. That is why I will never allow the bullshit and attacks ~ of any poster, in any way to take place on my blog. People there want to discuss, and learn, and enjoy themselves chatting about their horses. It is not a sewer and I'll never let it get that way.

And GL? I believe "catpoop woman" said she doesn't have any horses.

GoLightly said...

So, no relevance to cat-poop.
Thought so.
I think I said it already.
Who Cares?
That case she posted is also, old news.
Who the hell cares?
Not me.
But yeah, Dena, make sure you shred my credit card, please.
Good luck.

and nope, I do not agree with hoof sanding.
Try to teach the relevant shite first, if you please.

SFTS said...

Thanks for the advice GL, but I'm posting on my blog things in the order I see fit. ;) A little mix of "beginner stuff" mixed in with "horse show stuff", along with an occasional dash of "trail riding stuff", plus anything else I feel like posting. You know, like you or anyone else who has a blog does!

Now, I heartily disagree that what the catpoo lady has posted regarding Dena is "old news" or in any way irrelevant, particularly insomuch as Dena like to make "old news" about myself and my family pertinent to right now.

Fair is fair, right?

SFTS said...

Besides, considering that Dena is not only still on probation, she still has open court cases as of today, 8/11/09, regarding probation violations, plus she still has outstanding fines due that she has not yet paid to the courts, it's pretty relevant to right now, currently, today.

Maybe she should pay all her many fines to the court rather than buying more horses? I'm just saying.

JohnieRotten said...

SFTS

THE TERM 'CUNT' WILL IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM BE TOLERATED HERE!

I DO NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE REFERING TO BE IT CNJ, GL,HP or DENA.

SFTS said...

More of that "special rules for everyone other than SFTS" again, JR?

So it's fine for others to call me that?

Funny, but you didn't jump to scream at others for using that term to describe me.

Your ass is showing again.

JohnieRotten said...

Do not fuck with me SFTS!

SFTS said...

Was that supposed to be some sort of threat, JR? Truth hurt?

How about you go ride or train one of those horses you have standing in your barn instead of pulling this sort of bullshit.

GoLightly said...

IF either Dena or SFTS had a felony conviction for cruelty to animals?
Yeah, that is relevant.

People drink in the horse business?
To EXCESS??
(falls over in shock)
That was sarcasm, btw. My first instructor was an alcoholic, my Grandpa, blah, blah, blah.
Alcohol is a huge problem in our countries.
um, SFTS, you've had the same problem, I do believe. Posted by one of your "anti-fans", not me.
and no, it STILL isn't relevant.

Who used that disgusting word?? Oh, SFTS did. How mature.

I HATE that word. I learned twunt from NHJ. I like it better. Funny the words you pick up on the net.
To NoHossJones, wherever she is.

858, yes!!

(Checking for axe murderers. Nope, none found.)

GoLightly said...

I think it's time to throw the invisibility cloak over SFTS.
She'll be much happier that way.

maybe go play in your sandbox, now?

The horse business.
Good grief, try to act professional, at least, SFTS.
Even if it's only an act.

GoLightly said...

Sorry, word verf was tooo funny.
Fredoom
Anybody got a husband named Fred?
You is DOOMED.

laceeslilena said...

SFTS

I feel you should be warned.

I have been around a long time and I have seen JR's wrath and you do not want to go there. He has been very patient with you and I am not sure why.

And I seem to recall, he has the twins 2 days a week so today is probably one of those days. And to top it all off, you are the one that is always on the blogs and have posted far more than JR, so maybe he has more to do than you.

JR, I love your training blog and I am waiting for a new post. SFTS, I have read your blog and that is about all I can say about it.

SFTS said...

ME try to act professional?! WhuT??

No GL, sorry, I don't even drink and I've never, ever had any sort of encounter with the law whatsoever of any kind related to alcohol, controlled substances or anything of the like.

Yet another [unfounded and totally false) rumor from the lovely folks here.

And the "disgusting word"? Used, multiple times, to describe me by the groupies here who hate me.

But of course, that's okay...because I am the devil incarnate. *eyeroll*

SFTS said...

Thanks for the warning QH gal, I am quite sure I can hold my own.

As for my blog? I didn't figure it would suit you, which is fine by me.

Good Lord, why do I even bother sometimes?

*

I'm headed out shortly to go work horses and give lessons. I know how a few of you people looove my giving such updates. Toodles.

laceeslilena said...

Oh SFTS

Like I said. Don't go there!

As far as your blog goes, I am not sure who it is good for, I just know it is not good!

laceeslilena said...

SFTS

I think you need to go back and read all of your old posts so you can keep your lies straight!

That way when you are called out on them, you can remember what you said.

And atleast JR does not delete comments of those that disagree with him like you do.

GoLightly said...

yeah, the Pony Club Manual.
Cheaper than an internet connection AND still relevant.
How long has it been in publication for?

No Hoof sanding in there.

So OUT of date..
866!

laceeslilena said...

Is that where SFTS gets her posts from GL, the Pony Club Manual?

She must be staying at the YMCA if they now have indoor plumbing.

I need to go pee, wipe my fanny and then grab a bite to eat for lunch. Then I need to get back to my job that I get paid for. So that is what I must do, I just thought you all would like to know. LOL

Kaede said...

Uh, I feel so left out, I was one given a citation for making an illegal left hand turn. the thing was, it was in the middle of a hurricane at 1 am. I (and the cop) were the only ones on the street. I was leaving my studio, thinking that sculpture studios were probably not the best place to hang out during hurricanes. Artists have all kinds of dangerous stuff in their studios, chisels, poisons, large hunks of heavy materials, gas if you are into welding. My neighbor was doing neon sculpture and hot glass. A bad place to be if the roof caved in. So I left and decided to take an illegal left hand turn as a short cut home. It was pitch black out side with high winds, big trees were swaying, leaves were everywhere. And I got nailed. My one brush with the law as a defendant.

GoLightly said...

Kaede, I am shocked and appalled.
How could you flout the laws of the road like that??

I got pulled over for speeding once, I was catching up to our horse trailer driving back from a show.
Thought quick, and said "Agh, I'm following that horse trailer! The horse has been terribly injured!!"
Off I went, on my merry way.
I shoulda been an actress.
Too derned funny looking though.
funny, peculiar, like.

(hangs head in shame)
I lied, to a cop.
I was soooo lucky.
Not everyone is.

Lacee, no, I doubt it. PCM is an easy read.
It's interesting and factual.
Oh, and relevant.
870!!!

Dang, I better work some more.
Gotta pay for Dena's bail, somehow.

Ardently, even.
(shakes head in amazement)

Kaede said...

I used to attend college classes (studio art) in a quonset hut. It roof was a great excuse for not hearing your professors. "Sorry Demetri, it's the acoustics you know. I'll never again use a gas cutter on wood."

Dena said...

Oh My...did the toxic twat use the *C* word?
*gasp*
Well I guess she knows that she can't do that again.
Use the *C* word I mean. I imagine she will always be high in toxicity.
She is so stupid. People like JR. People respect his methods of care and training.
He has proven himself amazingly patient and tolerant.
I would let him handle and/or ride any horse I've got.
Same goes for GL.
I would never let that Amazon with the bad habits anywhere near my babies.

The cat turd says what?
Like the number of my horses is her business?
Or what I do with them.

GL some folks will never understand that my past is my past.
Just as they will never understand that their past is their present because they have done nothing to change it.

Why I am the rod they attempt to measure themselves against is beyond me.

As for talking about anyones children I have said from day 1 that should not be happening.
But the TT can't seem to keep herself away from it.
Along with a couple of others.

As for it's horses? They too have learned to sub-exist off the kindness of strangers.
Unfortunately they have not met a farrier so kind to do the work for free.
Or a vet willing to do their dental exams for free.
Do they have shelter yet? In the high desert of Phelan?

NCC my applause was silent because I was in awe.
It was so clear. All of it.
And so clearly dismissed.
Which is so sad...

catpoop sez enuff said...

GoLightly frothed: "So, no relevance to cat-poop.
Thought so.
I think I said it already.
Who Cares?
That case she posted is also, old news.
Who the hell cares?
Not me."

Old news is not 7/31/2009. You know, 11 days ago. Bet you didn't read the link. Do you care that a convicted felon violates parole and that the care of animals she owns may be compromised? If you don't, you're a hypocrite.

No I don't have a horse, because I am not in a financial position yet to do so. If that, or my choice of username, means you won't consider the logic of my posts, by all means ignore me. Not going into debt and having repeated brushes with the law used to mean someone was probably trustworthy, but the rules seem to be reversed in many of the posters' minds.

Speaking of usernames, GoLytely is the name of a popular bowel prep for colonoscopies. That doesn't relate to horses so I am going to write off everything you say. And think of someone crapping themselves empty. Fun!

I want to know why SFTS is being told to sell her 4 horses and buy her family a "real" home while Dena is lauded for adding to her 17 (or whatever number she thinks it might be today) horses when she is begging for help paying basic necessity bills. I don't particularly like SFTS and I am certainly not defending her but the fact that it seems that everyone posting on this thread has suddenly gone into the "Dena is a Wonderful Rescuer!!" camp is mindblowing.

GoLightly vomited: "Take a side? What "side"?
Anybody else see a side??
Have you nothing better to do, is the question.
Maybe take care of your horses?
nah, spewage is SO much more fun.
Cat # ??
"my posting name is stupid"
You said it, not me."

Nope. I just work my 2 jobs, pay down my debt, and plan for the future when I will be financially able to support a horse. Crazytalk, I know.

Dena again: "The cat turd says what?
Like the number of my horses is her business?
Or what I do with them."

Well Dena, since the number seems to keep shifting mysteriously, and the first time we all "met" you was begging for help for the phone bill, yeah, it's kind of my business when I see so many people encouraging you to get even more horses. And as for your past is your past and my past is my present because BLAH BLAH BLAH.... I've never been arrested! Even once! Never had to go to jail! Can you imagine that? Responsible with my own life and ready to call out those who pretend to be perfect but hide their true selves. Oh wait, I sound like Dena.

Kisses!!

Kaede said...

Ok you all, time for some funnies, we need them.
Dear Daughter #4 name is Seiko, in Romanji or Hiragani it means "sincere child" (ko) or "faithful/reliable child". Hence the watch brand. But it you write in in Kanji with the appropriate radicals its meaning changes to "lively child" or perhaps more like "that kid sure is a live wire" in exasperated tones. Guess how DD#4 is writing her name now.
Dear Husband is still looking (sort of. Thank goodness for gold colored parachutes) Anyone want a Japanese houseboy? He is really good at microwaving dinners and directing people to do work. "Kaede, what are your goals for this week? Have you broken them down into doable tasks with dead lines and time lines?"

Uh, no. I haven't. My goal is to not kill you this week. My vacation is over on Monday. I am taking 3 graduate classes in education and am teaching art history/being a docent part time this fall. I'll be to busy to kill you after Sunday. I'll have to hire a hit man.

As revenge I'm putting up a new mailbox. I'm making it look like Lieutenant General Claire Lee Chennault's Flying Tiger Curtiss P-40's. With the kills being marked as envelopes showing how many bills were successfully paid. I don't think DH gets it. He found this to be a great idea, even offered to help.

Kaede said...

I for got to add about DD pep talks to me to get work done Quality controls. "Have you set up standards for how your work is to be done? Is this a good standard? Your standards need to be higher than the competitions, higher quality and faster, better customer service too." He misses his employees.

Kaede said...

I'm waiting for him to write a mission statement for the family.

GoLightly said...

SB, I think I smell you.

Dena said...

Cat shit listen up. I asked for help once. Almost 9 months ago.
You never sent any money. Too busy paying down that $40,000 in debt your "owe" so responsible self incurred.
I do not owe you an accounting of any type.
The number of my horses is not your concern.
And you are really stretching to say it is kind of your business.
I have never claimed to be perfect you ignorant twit.
And I have figured out the mystery of being the rod the worlds trash wishes to measure itself against.
The truth shall set you free. Simple as that.
The truth. Acknowledging and embracing and being unafraid to admit the truth.
And I do think you are a rank little piece of crap for bringing up my dog.
Go right for the emotional jugular eh bitch!?!
Paralysis from lymes diesease and unresponsive to the series of antibiotics.
Does that satisfy?
Good thing you have not been to jail. I am thinking if you had someone would have slapped the shit out of you.
So do me a favor and shut the fuck up. You say you don't like SFTS either but girlfriend you are sure doing a fabulous job of immitating her.
Oh but I forgot. I am a renter.
And you my dear are an ignorant and misinformed irresponsible little crap.

SFTS said...

Dena Rodacker, you wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the ass. You live in a delusional fantasy world and sadly, as long as these few friends of yours here enable you, you will never actually get into the real world.

* * *

Loved your story, Kaede!! Too funny! :)

Kaede said...

When I went to court about the illegal left hand turn (I didn't know I could have just paid the ticket. I thought you had to show up in court for that sort of thing) my case was waaay down on the docket.
First case in a Latino man in a prisoner jumpsuit and hand cuffs. Charges read "Illegal parking" Guilty as charged Latino man led away. The next case African American man in a prison jumpsuit in handcuffs "double parking" "guilty" man led away. Another Latino man in a cuffs and a jumpsuit, this time with a translator "illegal parking" Guilty man led away.
I'm beginning to feel ill. I have a moving violation, much more serious than illegal parking.
The parade of prisoners goes on for 45 minutes. My case is called. The charges read, I feel faint. The Judge looks at me and tells me to sit down. I do so, plop, right on the floor. A smothered laugh and the cop helps me to my feet and to the defendant bench, then puts my head between my knees. "Not guilty". I stagger out to the lobby and someone explains what was going on: The first people in line were having the proverbial book thrown at them. They had robbed a bank or a gas station and in doing so had parked illegally. They were going to face other charges later on.

Dena said...

Oh Good Lord. I just wasted 8 minutes preaching to the choir.
I would presume Cat poop already knows they are a little crap.
So apparently all I really need to do is change the sand in the box after putting in a new liner.
And bury this toxic load in a deep hole that it will not continue to crawl back and stink up the place.
First of all change the stupid name. It is disrespectful to yourself before anyone else.
It is neither witty nor clever.
And even though I am not impressed with or by you I find it offensive that you would so demean yourself.
Cat poop indeed.
And as we all already know that I can and have shot to kill, have not the appropriate fear of the law, and jail does not scare me?
What is your point?
That you feel big and safe from the land of anonymity?
With a self-imposed moniker like Cat poop?

GL I have no bail. No court dates. And my fine was forgiven in lieu of all my community service that is freely done.
Oh and no pending probation violations.
That was what I went to jail for in March.
The offense was from October of 2005.
Jeesh some people.

Dena said...

Oh I know the truth about lots of things. Like what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas.
Poor Lt. Kernal not very bright is he?
Does he know yet that he was featured in a pornographic novel?
Authored by none other than our own not so beloved SFTS.
And why did she get kicked off the Ammy Army blog?
And many many more.
And the show she claimed to have conquered at?
2nd to last in how many classes?
All those yellow pieces of recycled nylon that she sells her soul and her daughters security for.
The video was a hoot. The pictures? Not very flattering.
Yeah CnJ it isn't even fun. Sad? For her victims yes.
And the simple truth is that I do not ever believe I have had to relieve myself in a coffee can.
I did have to wipe my butt with a leaf once.
Camping trip packed for by the men in the family. Ran out of water too as I recall.
Had plenty of potatoes though.
Must be the whole Irish thing. Which makes no sense because it was the Danish side of the family that went camping.
No I don't leave my waste behind and then claim it to be worth tens of thousands of dollars.
Wait! I could use a little extra money. I need to call the Park Comissioner and tell whoever it is that if they don't return my shit I am going to sue them for thousands of dollars.
Gotta run. I must plan for my childs future.
I could send him to college on this.
Unless of course I see a really pretty outfit that makes me feel important.
Then fuck it. He will have to earn his own way.
Because I have my priorities you know.
Me...Me...Me...Me...Me...Me...Me...
Ummmm...no...actually I do know my priorties.
And they place him...him...him...and his wellbeing and future squarely at the forefront of all my personal goals and desires.
I cannot imagine the day that I would subject him to the unnecessary squalor and humiliation of being a beggar...all while, maintaining my illusion of being a princess.
Do princesses really crap in coffee cans? I don't think I want to be one then.

Kaede said...

Waay off topic but all this talk of being an alcoholic got me curious. I looked up AA's 12 steps, it talks lots about god.
What if you don't believe in god, does it still work?
What if like Buddhism there is no creator god, but lots of sort of powerless little ones?
Or in Shintoism where EVERYTHING (including such fun things as paper blowing in the wind, discarded soda cans and tofu) is a god?
How about steps 8 and 9? What if someone else thinks you have harmed them but you don't think so? What then?
How do you make amends for really big things like killing a person while driving drunk? Is it even possible? What if you killed someone everyone hates and thinks that's a good thing he is dead and out of the community? Do you still have to make amends? If so to whom?
I'm getting back in grad school mode here.

SFTS said...

ROTFLMAO!! Oh Dena, too funny.

Gosh, I haven't even been to Vegas since, hmmm, 2005? No, actually it was 2002. ;)

I wasn't aware the Ammy Army even had a blog! But we are members of the forum. And the founder of that site is still a good friend. ;)

As for the rest? Gave me a really great LOL! Yes, you confirmed it, you really are delusional.

SFTS said...

Wow Kaede, that really makes you think doesn't it? Of course, as I don't drink or partake in any illegal substances, I've never even looked into those 12 step programs.

horspoor said...

Kaede..it is a belief in whatever your 'higher power' is. Whatever your belief system is. There is something you believe in. Whether it be the guy with the beard and flowing robe, or that everything is one thing...etc

horspoor said...

You know what step messes many people up? The one they try to skip or fake, and just go on? (which totally screws up the program and recovery).

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

nccatnip said...

Cat poop- I stand by what I say. I was addressing SFTS, not Dena. They are not comparable in my book.
No where will you find me "lauding" Dena for having however many horses she has.
My support or lack there of to Dena is documented nowhere here. I reserve my opinion.
Care to shorten the very broad brush you are painting with?

horspoor said...

The twelve steps aren't just about drugs and alcohol.

You might want to take a look.

Kaede said...

I'm lost again Lt. Kernal was a SCSI (scuzzy)hard drive subsystem developed for the Commodore 64 and Commodore 128 home computers back when I was in my late 20's. I believe it was developed originally by Auschwitz survivor Jack Tramiel in GL's Toronto. It eventually move to the Bahamas and West Chester Pennsylvania. Lots of blood thirsty business practices back in the mid 80's. Makes us look like pikers. Lt.Kernal was important to some forms of Information Science, which is why I know about it.

Kaede said...

Thanks Horspor. I had never read the 12 steps until today. It would be a very hard and honest way to live.
I've blown off the 12 step program because it is "cool" to say things like "I'm on the 12 step program for shoe buying" when a colleagues buys 4 pairs of shoes during lunch.
It is much more meaningful than that.

flying fig said...

The C word is inappropriate no matter who uses it. Let's see... I have seen it from roses, Dena and now SFTS. There may have been others who joined in the free for all of vile comments at FHOTD - I lost track. It got to be one long monotonous spewing contest... and all the foul language started to run together...

Anyway - enough of that do as I say and not as I do crap from all sides. Is Toxic Twat acceptable ? IMO not at all. No one should get a pass for any of that nonsense. Such terms do make anyone golden or smart or anything other than immature and malicious. But it is a very good way to present yourself in the worst light possible - so if that is your goal... go for it!

SFTS - you complain about rambling defenses? Gawd - that is all you do/have done... it is almost as if you WANT to fan the flames. Do yourself a favour and stop rambling on and on and on and on...

I can only conclude that you love the fight. You love to argue. You need to have the last word and always be right. Otherwise you would have dropped all this long ago and not seem to thrive on trying to refute every little comment...

I have been to court twice. Once to Small Claims to go after the jerk who failed to pay me for some artwork I did for him. I won. Big whoop. He did not show, skipped the province and there was no way to garnishee anything. So even though I "won", the jerk actually did.

The second time was to protest an assinine traffic ticket. Supposedly I ran the only red light in town... on a snowstorm white-out of an afternoon when there was a foot of snow on the road and a bigger truck than my F-150 hit me from the back and pushed me through the intersection. The guy standing on the curb was aghasted that the Mountie came out of nowhere and wrote me a ticket. I was livid and protested loudly. The Mountie smiled and doubled the fine.

That was in January - in June it went to court. The offending officer saw me standing there with my chart of the intersection and the witness..... walked over to the judge and said something... and when my name was called the judge told me the ticket was void. But-but-but I did not even get to show him my chart!! ;-)

So there you have it... my entire legal experience. So very dull.

Maybe if ALL of us paid more attention to those at home and our own affairs and did not delve into the affairs of others, conduct "investigations", and relied only on first hand knowledge (and not someone else's tales or potential exaggeration) ... this blog and a host of others would be a lot less infected with pointless venom.

I forget who said it many posts back - but I agree that my real life has not even a whisper of the drama and angst that rocked through FHOTD prior to the comments going POOF! ... and now here. It is bizarre and fascinating in a kind of weird driving by the accident way... and yet I am sure we could all live without it.

Dena said...

Oh now I am scared. I read your entire post FF.
No headache. And no obfuscation(?).
Wow.
Here is my addition.

I don't hide from myself. And all the information about me presented is old hat for me.
I lived it. Through it. And still waiting for the beyond it.
It affects everything I do. Not just in what I have learned from it.
But also in how people unrelated to me or mine would use it. To establish themselves as having a greater worth than I.

I work with one of the now ex court administrators from some of that. Yep, she and her husband 2 former court adminstrators are fellow cashiers at WalMart.

My goodness did that ever muddy the water.
And somehow some people think it their right to show me what they have determined to be my place.
Nothing I do or don't do will ever change that.
Because that portion is about them. It defines them. Not me.

I am not "golden." I am simply that which bends without truly breaking anymore.
Is there some twist in that? My make-up so to speak?
Sure.
I no longer bow to anything I cannot respect.
Because I am not a second or third class citizen.

The choices made in my past define me only in that they are choices of my past. Admittedly some very poor and harmful to others and self choices.
They define me in that I do not justify them.

What I resent more than anything is those who would make a mockery of the road travelled and the path paved brick by brick to some type of recovery.
And those who have not made the effort riding my coat tails to a place that they have not by their own actions earned the right to be.

The comparisons FF that is what gets me.

So if the question has ever been "Who am I or what?"
The answer is simple.
I am she who has lived beyond what some had determined to be my place.
I did not have the coping skills for this world then.
I have the skills to master it now.
I decide what my future will and will not hold.

Yep. That is it in a nutshell. I decide who or what I am.

Kaede said...

You know what the symbol for courage is in Japan? The Japanese flowing plum ume, Prunus Mume.
It is considered the symbol for courage because it flowers in the coldest part of the year when snow is still on the ground. People with courage are suppose to be like that, put forth beautiful flowers (acts of kindness and compassion)that have a beautiful,delicate scent (brings joy to all that know of the results of the kindness but may not be able to see the source) in times of great adversity. The Japanese are nothing if not subtle. Unless of course we are talking about Nanking.

SFTS said...

Here are some things which absolutely amaze me:

That people who have never met other people can make medical diagnoses over the internet without a medical degree of any sort.

That people who have never met other people can make judgments about people, their character, their lives, their families and so forth without ever having any real life experiences around, with or in the shoes of those people (and yes Dena I am including what you went through during the FHOTD Planning FAIL comments free for all ~ which in of itself is striking how someone who went through that could do the same, and worse, to another human being).

That people so freely jump on bandwagons, spread rumors, spread lies and so forth, especially just to be mean, hateful, spiteful and vitriolic because it is simply so easy to do so sitting behind a computer screen.

That people rarely stop and think about the consequences of their actions on these computer forums.

Incredible, isn't it?

Dena said...

In the words of one of my children. An amazing and incredibly unique and gifted individual in their own right.

>>>The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!<<<

I guess blood will tell. Regardless of, circumstance.

Kaede said...

Other random thoughts before I go out and tutor my two little boys
If one is assigned to go to AA meetings, do you just have to attend the meetings or do you have to go through the belief system? (I can attend a Baptist service without converting.)
How would the courts monitor if you are doing anything but attending? No one can see your intentions only your actions.

SFTS said...

Here is another something, which really is hilarious in this whole barrage of attacks against me ~ that one of the things these folks constantly make mention of are the communities of Pinon Hills versus Phelan.

As if it's some great insult to live in the community of Phelan.

I lived there once, for about 9 months.

Now I live across town, in Pinon Hills.

Let's maybe have a little geography lesson.

There is a road called Beekley. See, anything to the South of Highway 138 and West of Beekley Road South of Highway 18 is considered Pinon Hills. Where I live. :)

I know some perfectly nice people who live over in Phelan, including some clients of mine. My husband has clients who reside in Phelan, too. I have to wonder what they would think of people using their community as an insult?

laceeslilena said...

You know what gets me SFTS is that you threw your personal life out there on the Internet including your legal issues and then you get pissed off and defensive when people do judge you. And then everything wrong in your life is someone elses fault. You have never taken any responsibility for your own shit.

You complain about this blog which would not exist if you would have quit your bickering with Dena. We all know Dena is no saint, but she admits that she has fucked up.

That is why you get picked on as well as for your know it all attitude. And you keep comming back for more.

Dena said...

SFTS we have ALL been guilty. ALL. I do not hate you.
I just wish you would offer a sincere apology to those who have been hurt in real life.
I would even be willing to bet that they would in the spirit of good will and doing the right thing offer you heartfelt apolgies in return.
I wish people could put aside ALL of this ugliness.
And if you refer to one of my email to you that was expressed there too.
Fighting like this makes me feel unclean.
Dirty.
Not righteous.
But Peace is often accomplished by extending Peace.
A white flag.
Yes, surrender.
Surrendering the hate, the anger, the fight.
Because in surrendering you will find that you are not vanquished or beaten.
But that you will have emerged victorious.
Because you will have shown your enemies that you are capable of Mercy.
And by offering it you will find that the amount you receive in return will far exceed what you have given.
And your enemies will no longer be your enemies.
Because the fight will have been surrendered.
And that is a Win Win...
Give them their peace. I promise you will find a measure of your own restored for the effort.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Dena ranted: "Cat shit listen up. I asked for help once. Almost 9 months ago.
You never sent any money. Too busy paying down that $40,000 in debt your "owe" so responsible self incurred.
I do not owe you an accounting of any type."

Of course not. Of course, you have no idea how I incurred my debt. I could have filed for bankruptcy, and I chose not to. I chose to work 2 jobs, NOT have horses or other things I could not afford to care for, and to pay off every cent I owed. I'm proud of that. I didn't ask for or receive any sort of handout from anyone. And you're right, I would not have sent you a penny, because when I donate I want to know where my money is going and I want it to directly help animals, not pay bills.

I asked about the dog because my second job is at a vet clinic (so I can support the pets I have, yay employee discount), and we generally euthanize animals that are dying instead of shooting them. However, as I learned on FHOTD before Dena got the comments shut down, a well-placed shot can be as effective as euthanasia for a horse, and I will assume it is so for a dog as well. I apologize for the way I asked the question.

I grew up with guns and so Dena you do not scare me one bit.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Dena again: "First of all change the stupid name. It is disrespectful to yourself before anyone else.
It is neither witty nor clever.
And even though I am not impressed with or by you I find it offensive that you would so demean yourself.
Cat poop indeed."

My name has nothing to do with who I am. If you want to infer, please go ahead. Personally my name makes me laugh, and so I use it.

Dena sez: "Oh and no pending probation violations.
That was what I went to jail for in March.
The offense was from October of 2005.
Jeesh some people."

Here's what gets me. You want to present yourself as someone who has been though hell and back and has now turned the corner and are selflessly helping horses and everyone can donate money and things will be sunshine and roses. That's great. I'm really glad you got help with your addictions; as a recovering alcoholic myself I completely understand the daily battle it can be to stay sober. Call me a drunk if you want, I've heard it before.

But then you go and f things up again. IMHO to truly rescue one must put the animals before yourself. I have the animals I can afford, and no more. I do not put myself in situations where I could incur jail time, ie, time away from my animals. I don't believe people should hoard more animals than they can support and call it rescue. I guess that's the big problem I have with you.

I acknowledge that I am fanning the flames and not accomplishing anything positive here. I just wanted to say my piece and question what seems to me like a blind eye turned towards extremely questionable "rescue" behavior, while at the same time slamming someone who isn't liked for the same things.

And for the record, I have never shit in a can.

Sherry Sikstrom said...

Oh for shits sake !! Are we there yet?

horspoor said...

okay y'all say it with me:

God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.

OHHHHHMMMMMMM (had to throw in a little TM and a mantra)

SFTS said...

Dena, this is the entire problem with your premise ~ and I have told you this before, but you refuse to listen:

These people about whom you speak have had nothing but peace from me. I have no desire to have anything to do with them, see them, speak with them, be on the same planet with them.

Our experience at the August first horse show? It was planned all along...and it did not go as they had hoped.

Let me clarify a few other things. Everything I did, back in February, was for the benefit of a minor whom it seemed to many was on a fast track to disaster. Even CnJ was in on those discussions, knew all about what really had been transpiring and it seems was on "my side" (for lack of a better term) in relation to my endeavor to try to turn a wayward life around.

Now, I do not know what you have been told by the other parties, however I do know the truth.

I don't hate them. Hell, I don't hate anyone. Scratch that, there is one person on this Earth whom I can truly say I hate, and it had more to do with the fact that he left his prized pure Spanish Arabian stallion, a horse I adored, to die standing in a small horse trailer then the fact that he assaulted me. If I ever come into contact with him again, if he is still among the living, I will not be responsible for my actions.

What if your teenage daughter was engaging in reckless, dangerous behavior? Would you simply turn a blind eye as a parent? Would you have turned your rage on those people who were leading your child down a path toward self destruction? As a parent, if someone had told me that my daughter was engaging in half of the things I saw, I would have put my foot down. While perhaps an initial moment of shock and anger I may have lashed out, but upon a bit of reflection it would have been painfully obvious where my anger should be directed.

I am not sorry that I took the actions I did. I also do not think you have any idea what actions I really did take, and those taken by others perhaps attributed to me. My sole intent was to do something about a situation so many had been talking, endlessly, about since mid-Spring 2008. Did you read back through all that? I did. Much of it was far worse than anything I ever thought of doing or saying.

If there was a way both sides in this (and I do not mean you, your friends here on this blog or anyone other than we few direct parties, there are five total) could sit down in a neutral setting and calmly, rationally discuss everything in totality I would be completely willing to do so. Each party explain their side. All voices heard and understood. Everyone fully protected in every way possible. However I do not foresee that happening, at all.

If you have any better ideas, I am open to listening. But then, I always have been.

nccatnip said...

How about this?

SFTS- You Win. Youwinyouwinyouwin.
You win the internet.
The trainer of the century award.
The know all be all person.
The savior of the wayward child.
The blogingest blogger of all time.
youwinwinwinwinwiwnwinwinwinwinwinwin
win
win
WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doves be released, angels sing.

Now, are we done?

horspoor said...

Okay, but who takes second? lmao

Sorry could't resist.

kestrel said...

Haaahahahaha!

flying fig said...

>> The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww! <<

I have always loved that ^^^ quote from Jack Kerouac... but Dena, you are far too young for him to have been one of your children - I think he died in the late 60s. ;-)

Dena said...

I need to teach her to reference her quotes FF.
That is funny.
She is my modern age hippy child.
They are her words in that she identifies with them I guess.
Now I shall have the opportunity to reference his works and she will think me madly hip.
Thank you...

GoLightly said...

Alright, I'll skip us over
911

GoLightly said...

912

GoLightly said...

913 aaaaaaaand...

GoLightly said...

914th, because, I can.

carry on..

laughing!

Anybody else hear the fireworks?

Oh, hey, can I be second?
pleasepleaseplease..

Anonymous said...

wow.. i'm really slow at work so i've been reading and loving JR's blog and somehow ended up here... and NO i did not read all of this nonsense... that would surely be WAY too painful... i still hold to my belief that you're both idiots.

actually... i was thinking you are both one both one and the same person .. signing on as two posters and fighting with yourself... no one i know with a horse biz (and family) has time to type away the hours that you do. honestly. not one person. i'm just sayin'....

oh, and i'm a redhead... 'twas natural now it's loreal 6R....

oh, and for denasfts i found this.. kind of makes things brighter, don't it?http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ICERS&msg=925.1&maxT=11

quite intersting....

Anonymous said...

are not 2 people, but one person... that's what that's suposed to say.

Kaede said...

Cough, Cough, OK Class listen up:
Jack Kerouac is not who everyone thinks he was. JK was a Beat poet not a hippy. However JK once said "I'm not a beatnik, I'm a Catholic."
He died in 1969 from an internal hemorrhage due to cirrhosis of liver.
He was politically conservative Catholic, supported the Vietnam War and was friendly with William F. Buckley. He disliked hippies and hippy culture. He was important to the visual arts and written arts, he brought a jazz sensibility to his written words.

Dena I very glad you have contact with your children in foster care. I was a foster mother when I lived in DC. It is important for the kids to have a feeling for what their roots are. There were just so many questions the kids had when they never saw their parents. One of the toughest time I remember my foster kids having was when they had to have supervised visitation. Hard on all parties. The hardest time was when their parent would visit them with a new family/children. Why did those strangers/ kids get to live with their mom but they didn't? I never had an answer other than "that is the way it is." I didn't want the kids in my care to think badly of their parents.

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Dena said...

Kaede that is from one of my theoretically adult children.
I have several.

I do not disagree with your other presentations either.
The pain that can be generated in those types of situations is staggering.

I have been since you posted about it trying to reconcile my thoughts to a flowering plum tree.
It is slow going.
I am angry and raw over so many things right now.
Any one of which would have sent me scurrying off to the dope man in my old days.
I love flowering bulb plants. Because even thought they leave you for a season they always return.
Death isn't as kind. In that it can appear so final. And seem such a thief.

I used to fight grief with a show of anger. I find even that is no longer acceptable to me.
Usually I fight because whatever I am fighting for is important to me.

Strange that. I know some of my friends get that even though I may appear to be fighting a target I am really fighting for them.

Everyone has some value.

But how can any of us shine when we are hiding from our own truth?
Acts that have the ability to cause us shame are also opportunities to be free.

I don't hide from the truth that is me. Nor do I always share it.

PrairieFarmer said...

That's lovely Dena.
920!

CharlesCityCat said...

Kaede:

Tell me, how do you know that Dena's contact with her children are through foster homes? Maybe at one time, but really, do you have truly current info on the status of all of her children. For you to make such a condescending remark, is really, well, beneath you.

CharlesCityCat said...

Well, here I am back again. I guess I am just as interested in a train wreck as the next person. I do hope each and everyone of you (myself included) realize that we are attracted to this blog like we are when we pass a wreck on the highway, it's called rubber necking. Each of you can deny it, but the facts will prove me right. I don't care how intelligent, how educated, how high-minded, how high-moraled each of us profess to be, if you have commented on here more than one time, you are just as bad as the rest of us. Too funny, aren't we?

CharlesCityCat said...

I am bucking to be number 1000. LOL!!

horspoor said...

You go CCC....we all have to have a dream. lmao

bigredsmom said...

Dena, Everyone has a past and all of us have done things we aren't proud of or would've done differently, and I personally don't think you should have to repeatedly explain or apologize for yours to anyone. What I don't understand is why you of all people would so aggressively go after others as you see fit like you do. I really don't mean that in a derogatory way, it just seems like you would have more compassion than others who do not have as much to draw from.

Dena said...

Oh that is an easy question to answer Trailblazer.

So they don't have to hide anymore.

I mean really if I am their worst nightmare what is there really to be scared of?

It is kind of like so what if you shit in a can.
I did drugs and negatively impacted many lives.
We are not dead so doing something better with our lives is always an option.

No sin is really greater than another. No matter what anyone says.
Including me.

Kaede said...

Dena, I am sorry. I was measuring your grain in my bucket. After everything that has be said, I assumed that all of your children were minor children. That was very wrong of me. I assumed you were trying to keep in contact with all your kids and foster care system was not being helpful.

When I was a foster mom, it was not unusual for families to be broken up by the foster care system. One of the 3 children could be placed in a home but not with the twins. So to keep the twins together, family binds would be broken. This also happened to handicapped children. A set of foster parents would be able to take in teens but not if one of them had Downs Syndrome. Us foster parents would try to get outing together with the other siblings, but.... it didn't always work.

For me what was even sadder is if a biracial child and a mono racial child were involved. Grandparents (usually of the white or Asian persuasion) would take the child matching their complexion and leave the biracial child behind. IMHO there is nothing so pretty as an African/Korean mix, just beautiful.

Once a family is involved in the foster care system, it seems to me that there is a prejudice against them. One foster family I knew only took in emergency foster kids for short terms. For instance, a single mom gets really sick and has to go into hospital. If there is no family/friends nearby to take the kids, they can end up in foster care. Then the parent has to prove that they are "good enough" to have their kids back. God help you if you have an angry ex or parents waiting around to stir up trouble.

Again Dena, I am very sorry.

All you parents out there make sure you have plans as to who will take care of your kids temporarily if you can't. My mom stepped in for me twice, once when DH was in ICU with viral pneumonia and once when we both had the 'flu at the same time. If my mom hadn't been able to take them, my kids could have ended up in foster care.

joanna said...

You're right, Kaede. Always have a plan. We are lucky to have my mother living with us, my in-laws 5 minutes away, and a very strong church family to back us up. It's happened before, someone in our church has an emergency and everyone bands together to take care of the kids, the house, even the pets. Everything gets taken care of so you can deal with what ever is going on.

CharlesCityCat said...

SFTS:

You know, I have tried many times over the last several months to express to you why so many commentors have turned against you. I have tried to express to you that your demeanor has changed since you first came on, you have advised me that you do not feel that you have changed at all.

This does make me sad and quite frustrated, because, yes, you have changed, so many have tried to express this to you (way before this particular blog even existed) and yet you can't see the truth. You were fun, humorous and knowledgeable. I don't know what happened, but it did happen. I have tried to get you to understand, but I have grown weary of beating on that particular stone wall. Ya know, like I said before, Da Nile is more than just a river in Egypt.

I will say, I never attacked you as a trainer, your family, your horses, your clients, your legal issues, your horsekeeping (except hoof sanding) and yet you chose to try to belittle me with absolutley no knowledge of me at all.

Do not try to make yourself out to be some great judge of character. You have much to be ashamed of yourself.

Before you go on some kind of stupid rant about how I am buddies with Dena, yes, I am. This is no big news to anyone.

We have regular contact with each other off this blog, we communicate the good, the bad and the ugly away from here. This is why I know far more about her, and incidently, like her way more than you could ever appreciate.

And really, I know what you are going to say, I really don't give a damn either.

Just remember, class shows.

Dena said...

Kaede I did not take offense. I understood that you were reaching out based on your experience.
I didn't look beyond the reaching out.
I felt it all day even before you put my name to it.

Korean and African American in a blend do make for truly lovely babies.

You and I will not waste time over imagined hurts again.
If we feel we have them we should not let them fester.

Kaede said...

OT but DH just reminded me that tonight is the Perseid meteor shower. The viewing will be hampered by the moon, but well, can't have everything.
You desert folks the best shot at seeing the meteors is suppose to be between 9pm and midnight. Go out and look up. Shooting stars are suppose to be lucky.

horspoor said...

I was looking forward to going outside and watching the meteor shower. Freaken fog rolled in. It is thick out there.

bigredsmom said...

Dena - thanks for answering me.

I said some unkind things to you over on FHOTD, and for that I apologize. I realize I have been way more judgmental than I ever considered myself to be.

I still don't quite understand how going after someone else (like SFTS) is something you'd want to do because you know what it's like to have strangers attacking you from afar and dragging personal things out online, etc, so I would think you'd stay away from that kind of thing. Not because you should ever be ashamed -but because you know how it feels.

Still, not my call - it would be nice to think everyone can get along or agree to disagree but I know that's just not possible sometimes.

JohnieRotten said...

Hp

I took a meteor shower the other night. That is some serious hard water!

horspoor said...

You need not to tick CNJ off, and she wont turn off the water softener when you're in the shower. lol

Dena said...

Well now some of you went and did it. You riled CCC.
Oh Oh...

I have always felt safe in my friendship with CCC.
She doesn't sugarcoat my bad behavior. And she is there for me every time.
No ifs, ands, or buts.
Ever.

I know where I stand with her without ever even asking.
I absolutley know in my heart that that will never change.

She has been pretty good about not jumping up the ass of everyone and anyone who says boo to me.
She respects that I do not wish to appear weak and in need of defense.

I would be more than happy to share my friends.
Friendship is a lot like respect. While it can be given it must be earned to maintain.

I am blessed in my friends. I can only hope that they feel the same.

Dena said...

Trailblazer shame can be a terrible enemy. I play both sides of the fence.

Information and the internet can be a frightening thing.
If you present yourself while standing in the shadows someone somewhere is going to nail you.

If you lie about it? Holy shit! The sky is falling for sure.

I am not trying to hurt anyone. Just knock some sense into them.
And as long as I am giving away trade secrets here.
I prefer quick and clean. Ripping someone to shreds is not my idea of a good time.
The only thing I am trying to kill is that which keeps so many sick.
And in pain.
The compassion may not always be evident but if I did not have it I would not bother.
Because I wouldn't care.

bigredsmom said...

Dena - very wise words. I am understanding now.

SFTS said...

LOL...mother mucker, now that would really be something for Dena and I to be the same person, I being in California and she being in Minnesota. Though I think she secretly would like to be a California Girl. ;P

SFTS said...

CCC, I really am not interested in the least in having a dialogue of any sort with you, nor reading anything whatsoever that you have to say, period. Rant on. But you'll be playing to an empty audience, because I'm not listening.

Dena said...

I like Cali I spent parts of many a summer there.
I particularly like the San Ynez Valley area.
But the property taxes are ungodly.
I also am not fond of places that have poisonous snakes.
Rattlers, Adders, Cottonmouths, etc..
They scare the shit out of me.
Scotland doesn't have snakes. But it gets terribly cold.
I am not fond of the cold either.
I have a a thought that I might like to live in Arkansas.
I know they have snakes too. But I have not seen them so maybe out of sight is out of mind.
My accent is mostly Georgian.
But the things in the ditches there? Oh my...
Canada is beautiful but again too cold.
Hubby said, I should have a house in Texas because I won't go to Mexico with all of the unrest.
But I am not a Texan either.
I have travelled extensively in the continental USA with the notable exception of Alaska.
I don't know yet where I am meant to fit.
CCC where do you think I am supposed to be?

Kaede said...

NC has more types of venomous snakes than any other state in the nation. We got 6 of them, Copperheads, Coral, Cottonmouth, Pigmy rattler, Canebrake or Timber rattler, and Eastern diamond back.
We also have black widow spiders, brown recluse spiders, deer tick, dog ticks, lone star ticks and tiger mosquitos. And the nastiest of all: Palmetto bugs. Cockroaches the size of your hand that can fly and aren't too upset by light.

CharlesCityCat said...

SFTS:

That works for me, doesn't exactly have one iota of effect on me. I gave up on you a couple of weeks ago.

I hope everything works out for you and your family.

WildCaballo said...

FYI DENA

I grew up in Santa Ynez, it is my home town. I was back for vacation this summer. I was down in the valley dealing with the family property issues (nothing interesting). Most of the large farms have been chopped up into "ranchettes" and micro "vineyards". Quite sad. The taxes are still outrageous, that will probably never change. The valley is tinder box dry, they are in the mists of yet another drought. So dry in fact that the grasses in the pastures didn't come in full and lush like normal. I was shocked. I haven't seen anything like that in all my years in the area. Times are a changin' down there, this is the first year that the Ranchero Vistadores didn't ride into the mission on their annual gentlemen's ride. Some of the ranches they cross to get to the mission have changed ownership and the new owners didn't allow them to cross their properties. Sad, but it is a sign of the times. I don't blame the new owners, they have rights too.

Oh and if you don't like cold, what the heck are you doing in Mn?! It gets COLD there!

GoLightly said...

"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation."
Xenophon, Greek general & historian (434 BC - 355 BC)

Look him up, CatPoop.
He said "GoLightly", first. Maybe go read a book, or something, Cat Shite. Work on your spelling. You'll get much further that way.

Xenophon, even before TC's "Breakfast at Tiffany's"!


Aren't we ALL California girls, at heart??

945th. C'mon, lassies, snort up a storm! Put your tails in the air, and let 'er rip!

Or, not.

I gotta work.
Anybody wanna lend me a zillion or so?
Has Madeline Pickens got a blog yet?

CharlesCityCat said...

I like my area, Virginia. We have pretty good all around weather, but fall is my favorite. Summers can be hot and humid but nothing like Arizona/Texas temps and it is usually just in July/August. Winter is pretty mild. I would say average daytime temps are around 50 but we get frequent warm spells, 60-70's thoroughout the winter. Winter very rarely interferes with riding. Spring is pretty with lots flowers and green.

The state offers the ocean with lots of beaches, rivers and mountains and lots of horse country.

We do have bugs and snakes but probably less than alot of other states.

Maryland is really nice too.

Dena said...

WC that made me so sad. I think I knew that some of that had gone on.
But as long as I had not been back I could tell myself that it remained as I remembered.

CCC ummm...what kind of bugs? Bugs freak me out a bit. Second to snakes.
Centipedes give me the willys.
And big spiders. I can kill them but ewwwww.

catpoop sez enuff said...

GoLightly sez: "blah blah *snip*"
Xenophon, Greek general & historian (434 BC - 355 BC)
Look him up, CatPoop.
He said "GoLightly", first. Maybe go read a book, or something, Cat Shite. Work on your spelling. You'll get much further that way."

Aah, a historian! How exciting. Surely you must know that Xenophon was simply reiterating what Kikkuli originally put forth. Go look him up, maybe you'll learn something. And of course, both scholars are but a pale shadow compared to the visceral understanding of the Noble Equine found in the original Cave Paintings of Lascaux. Sigh.

Also, I do believe you have misspelled "Shi'ite", although I do find myself leaning more towards the Sunni way of worship and belief, were I to have a faith, of course.

Anyway, I'm sure you are familiar with the original story of Xenophon, preparing for his first battle against Artaxerxes II of Persia. As he stood majestically in his war-chariot, facing his troops, he was so nervous he lost complete control of his bowels. Despite wearing his brown leather war-kilt and a rather billowy toga, it was plainly obvious to his troops what had occurred.

And that is why today the colonoscopy-prep drink is called GoLytely, in honor of Xenophon's understandable moment of weakness.

CharlesCityCat said...
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CharlesCityCat said...

Dena:

Our bugs are really rather benign here. We do not have palmetto bugs (really large roaches) at least as far as I have ever seen. Spiders are pretty usual, but are the ones that you let live in your barn to catch and eat flies. We have horseflies to a certain extent, but since I have been doing the fly predator thing, all flies are much reduced. Have lots of dragonflies (yea) and fireflies (pretty).

CharlesCityCat said...

Catcrap:

Your Google skills are somewhat impressive, but then again, most people could do the same if they have the time and comprehension skills. So, no, I guess they aren't so impressive after all.

The bowel prep you are referring to is a rather recent development. Up until the last few years, they used Citrate of Magnesium. Not so nice as the new stuff.

Golightly had the name long before the term for the bowel prep was coined. Just so you know, I have been in the medical field since 1984, how about you?

CharlesCityCat said...

Oh, and one last thing for this evening:

Catfecalmatter, do you have any idea of why she goes by the name Golightly?

GoLightly said...

Oh, sure she does, CCC.
It's gotta be SB. Newest alter.
Who else has such an odd hate on for someone she has never even met? "Frothing"?

Wow, someone forgot their rabies shot, hmmm? I hear hallucinations are the first symptom.

Really, I can recognize the odd sneering stupid tone, every single time:)
Obviously, she can't spell in Scot.
Oh, well.

Waves to Michelle;)

Must be nice
to live in Paradise..

Where court cases are tried, the very DAY the offense is committed.
Wow, you live in Iraq? How's that going?

Would you like my latest report on my bowel movements, cat feces?
A little um, obsessed, aren't we???

Go piddle on a wall or something.
Do something productive.
Like work at those TWO jobs.
You'll need them, with your people issues.

Whattya t'ink, CCC?
Will this break the 1k barrier?

Night all! Another 19 hour day, with nowt to show for it. Thank gawd for work.

Yes, it can be spelled in other ways.
TFB.

Hugs to the 'pacas, CCC.
You too!

Off to sacrifice a cat for Dena.
It's what we minions DO, ardently, even.

Dena haz GOOD kool-aid.
ByeBye!

Dena said...

GL you made me snork. I won't take a run at who CPS might be.
I don't remember SB ever gunning for me.

GL you are no ones minion. Except the animals.

I have good kool-aid? Having good refreshments is very important...

CCC I can handle those kind of bugs. Hubby is not afraid of snakes at all.
Very brave man.

leonard_mccoy said...

I sacrificed a chicken today. It was an odd breed of chicken whose cage was styrofoam and clear plastic wrap (so it could see outside, I'm guessing). And it had no head, feathers, or feet. It was strangely quiet and unassuming, for a chicken.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Geesh. My post was SATIRE. If you're going to pull the "I'm so smart" card and tell me to look up some old dead guy because I might learn something, I will. And I'll post back with the same smarmy tone you used. Pull the stick out, people.

I am my own self and you can guess incorrectly at whomever you want me to be. You'll be wrong. I have no idea who SB is.

GL, I didn't recognize that you were spelling one word in "Scot" as I was under the assumption that, since you were criticizing my spelling in my native language, English, you too were speaking English. My apologies for not reading your mind.

CCC, I have been in the medical field since 1894. I also have wings and can see through walls. I guess that makes me better than you. And I don't care what GoLightly's name means. So you lose on that point too. Y'all certainly do pick on names. It's not my fault my momma named me after the first thing she saw after birthing me in the bathtub.

***NOTE: THIS POST CONTAINS SARCASM***

joanna said...

Aww, come on people, only 43 comments to go!

Bones- we sacrificed chickens last night to the Great Barbecue God. It was majikal!

SFTS said...

At this juncture I have nothing much to add, except that last night we had chicken for dinner simmered in a pot of barbecue sauce. Mmmm!! ;)

That is all.

GoLightly said...

1894, Cat Excrement???

Whoah.

Now that IS an old cranky broad.

I cower to older even crankier broads..

Cat pooper, satire/sarcasm can come across as extreme vindictive weirdly nasty.
You sounded JUST like her.

You gotta tell us old literalists when you are being "satirical".
Especially when Many of us older folk don't find colonoscopy and it's reasons for being, um, applied, particularly humourous. We lost my sister's dear MIL to bowel cancer. Kay was the nicest lady.. It Ain't pretty, ain't funny.

See, words are loaded pistols....

Ewwww, BBQ sauce??
How crewel!!!

That poor chicken!!

<")

959, go, commenters!

GO!!
(not so lightly)

SFTS said...

Yes, I admit it! We are so very cruel to chickens. Um, the dead ones. Someone should call PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)...

960??

GoLightly said...

"To Flatter and Coax - Xenophon (long frickin' time ago 444-365 BC)
The hand must neither be held so strict as to confine and make the horse uneasy, nor so loosely as not to let him feel it. The moment he obeys and answers it, yield the bridle to him; this will take off the stress and relieve his bars, and is in conformity with that maxim, which should never be forgot, which is to caress and reward him for whatever he does well. The moment that the rider perceives that the horse has begun to place his head, to go lightly in the hand, and with ease and pleasure to himself; he should do nothing that is disagreeable, but flatter and coax, suffer him to rest a while, and do all he can to keep him in a happy temper. This will encourage and prepare him for greater undertakings.
from XENOPHONS'S Treatise on Horsemanship."

I'd never read this quote by Xenophon before. Big surprise to see GoLightly mentioned. Kinda cool, really. Hey, I'm a student of the horse. I've never graduated.

The blathering above taken from my lame-ass blog, way long ago.
April, 2009, when I still believed summer was right around the corner..

960, sheeples!!

c'mon, 40 more!

Kaede said...

We sacrificed some tofu,rice, a bag of salad, a tomato, some strawberries, poppyseeds, oil and vinegar last night. Do you think that any of the Orishas will mind the substitution of tofu for a chicken?

Anonymous said...

Wow

I get busy for a few days and this is still going.

CharlesCityCat said...

Catshist:

You have been in the medical field since 1984 too? It sure has changed alot hasn't it?

I wish I had wings and could see through walls, that must really come in handy.


I am going to have to disagree that I "lost" on my other point. I asked a valid question, just because you choose not to answer doesn't mean I lose the point.


I think Golightly is correct, if you have to point out that you are using sarcasm, maybe you aren't very good at it. Just sayin.

Kaede said...

Medical field changing since 1984....
Back in 1984 I got Hep A from eating seafood it is believed. (Don't eat no stinking seafood in the Caribbean)
I was an artist for Pete's sake, I couldn't afford no stinking doctor on my own. But my doctor, who had been my pediatrician, my parents doctor and my grandparents doctor, took care of me for free. I am sure he is sitting in heaven right now at the right hand of whatever god(s) there are.
On a sad/happy note, he attended my wedding, helped me become a foster parent while helping me to become pregnant, and then died shortly after delivering my first child. My mom likes to say he "just had to care for 4 generations of us. Just like his dad before him took care of us"

GoLightly said...

40/15.

CCC to serve.

CCC leads, 3 games to love.
(whack)

OW, that must have hurt...
965.

Did ya SEE??
kestrel is back!

Now that's a reason to do the happy jiggle.

Kaede said...

By the by lots of family members and family friends refused to attend my wedding "on principle". It made those folks who did support us more precious and our wedding more special. Marriage is going on 25 years now, Being my husband friend for over 40.

CharlesCityCat said...

Kaede, that MD sounds like a real special person. Don't have too many like that anymore.


Given how some of you family and friends behaved about your wedding, it says alot that you have such a positive memory of your wedding. Obviously, you weren't a Bridezilla. LOL!

CharlesCityCat said...

My word verification for the above post was Mentan, I guess that is what men get when they are out in the sun.

Us ladies get womentan.

GoLightly said...

Nah, I turn a lovely shade of beet red.
One of the challenges of being a redder head. Mom used to dress me in a raincoat for summer beach excursions..

WOw, kaede!

How lucky you were, what a great doctor.

970eeeeeeeeee!!!

CharlesCityCat said...

A raincoat at the beach? Well, that explains alot, dear GL!

Just funnin you, you know I wuves you!!

971

Kaede said...

My church gave my my wedding, one church lady made all the flower arrangements, (I carried a bouquet of white orchids)One women's circle gave us our dinner: chicken fried steak, country ham biscuits, coleslaw, potato salad, deviled eggs, green beans and hamhocks, and deep fried okra. One lady's son was dispatched to the "big city market" and got what they hoped would please my husband: a fancy cheese plate with Brie cheese and fresh fruit. Something most of those ladies had never seen. To make up for it one of the ladies brought a block of cream cheese covered with hot pepper jelly.
We couldn't afford any musicians so my sister brought a voice major from her grad school and my cousin brought in his gospel blue grass band to play in the reception. We had a chocolate pound cake for our wedding cake. We had a pinata as our big thing to do.
As far as I can tell everyone had fun.

Dena said...

I think I have a problem with the SN because it implies two things I am not fond of.

If cat poop ever talked I am pretty sure I would call it a day and voluntarily surrender what is left of me to the folks in the white coats.

If I break it down to initials I end up with an agency that I amm not very fond of.

So I would like to suggest that Cat poop sez change her screen name to either CIA or SFS.
Central Intelligence Agency or Striving For Sarcasm.

I was irritated by the reference that I am a renter.
I was infuriated by the reference to my dog.
But both were addressed to my satisfaction.

The tone has changed a bit. I think the person could be fun.

And in reference to the number of horses we currently have 2 went to sanctuary yesterday.
3 are being prepared for their new homes.
And 3 more started.

4 left in the 7 days before that so how many do I have left?

CharlesCityCat said...

Kaede, your wedding sounds like it was lots of fun.

974

Kaede said...

Dena, this sound like the math problems I give one of the kids I tutor.
If you have 3 trucks, and 7 days before that you had sold 4 trucks, and in 5 days you will pick up 6 trucks and sell 1 to your brother, how many trucks do you have.
The number sentence I get is 3+7+4+5+6+1. We are working on picking out relevant information from word problems.

Padraigin_WA said...

Last night I lit a fire in our family rock shelter by the river. I took my favorite cooking pot, that coiled one, and and placed a dismembered chicken in it. Stirred it with a deer tibia, I did. Scraped off the crusties with the same crittur's scapula. Husband hadn't yet completed the scraper; oh, we're trying to become more modern. Damn chert.
Added some fragrant bark, a few pine nuts, and voila, our dinner.

after dinner, yawned, stretched, and asked my husband to go on a walk with me. We hadn't gone far before we saw a few copralites in front of us on the ground. EWWWW, catpoop ones at that. Even though they were ancient, they still stank.

kestrel said...

Bwahahaha! This is kind of like walking into your favorite bar after a few years and the same regulars are sitting on the same stools...Howdy all, can I buy ya a beer? I'm off to prepare an ode to the sphagetti gods...

SFTS said...

Wow, like 23 to go in order to reach 1000? Incredible. 22 after this comment. ;)

Kaede, what a wonderful thing about your wedding, and what a terrific doctor. I sure miss the "family doctor" of years gone by. My mother has worked in the medical field as a Medical Secretary for 50+ years now and to talk to her about the changes over those decades is nothing short of amazing!

Catpoop lady? I think the "SB" referred to is SarcastaBitch, but I really think she has the wherewithal to post using her own screen name no matter what, so it never occurred to me that you would be her incognito.

On another, much happier note, today we made it into the newspaper again, this time with a picture of one of my students! I included a mention of it in my blog post for today. :) :)

MNaef said...

Catpoop lady? I think the "SB" referred to is SarcastaBitch, but I really think she has the wherewithal to post using her own screen name no matter what, so it never occurred to me that you would be her incognito.


That's me, readin' but not commentin'.

GoLightly, the authorities in my town wish you would stop harrassing them about me. I can assure you, I really DON'T have any kids least of all any that need to be taken away and my animals really are taken care of in a manner that meets the local SPCA's approval. It could be that kind of behaviour that is the reason more people than just me can be sarcastic and irritated toward you.

Back to readin'...

CharlesCityCat said...

Kestrel:

Snork!!

Great analogy.

catpoop sez enuff said...

Yeah so I am not SB.

I'm still floored than anyone read this and thought I was serious:
"Anyway, I'm sure you are familiar with the original story of Xenophon, preparing for his first battle against Artaxerxes II of Persia. As he stood majestically in his war-chariot, facing his troops, he was so nervous he lost complete control of his bowels. Despite wearing his brown leather war-kilt and a rather billowy toga, it was plainly obvious to his troops what had occurred."

If you couldn't figure out this wasn't serious, you really need to take a step back.

Padraigin_WA, how dare you make fun of people who live in rock shelters! My favorite cousin died in a tragic rock/scapula accident down by the river a few years ago. It still makes me cry to think about.

Dena: "So I would like to suggest that Cat poop sez change her screen name to either CIA or SFS.
Central Intelligence Agency or Striving For Sarcasm."

Technically it's Catpoop Sez Enuff (sic) so CSE. It could mean Can't Spell "Enough". Does that work?

Off to rip the hearts out of babies and kick old people. Toodleoo!

***post may contain sarcasm****

DraftCrossFool said...

Flying Fig, I like your style. :) Is that picture on your old FHoTD avatar your "namesake", and is he/she a Border Terrier?

1000 is j-u-s-t around the bend.

Padraigin_WA said...

paddling like mad to get around that bend, DraftX!
let's make it to 1000

just wondering, what is the winner's prize, JR?

word verif
anorse

an horse, an horse, my kingdom for an horse!

Kaede said...

I thought you were serious Catpoop. I was practicing my internet search skills to find that story. I am sooo disapointed! It would have been a great story to tell my students when looking at sculptures of Greek heroes.

GoLightly said...

SFTS, see what happens??
Twit. Never type it OUT!
jeeez.

Name it, it appears..
Funny how that happens.
Someone called CPS on you?
Wow. Why?
Now that is weird.

How did you like making Trojan's blog? Hey, number 5, you should be proud.
It's like an award.
Take it.

NCC will be so sorry she missed you. She's blissfully happy right now, I'd hate to wreck it for her.. Although it might actually make her laugh her arse off too.
We older broads are odder, that way.

98deux.

TOO funny...
"GoLightly, the authorities in my town wish you would stop harrassing them about me."
It typed MY name!! Spelled it right!!
Didn't spell harassment right, but hey, whutever..
swoons with delight..

I wonder what the heck you think I can do. As if I would. So weird..
(shakes head)
(kills another cat)

Yeah, CSE, not that funny. Nice TRY though...
Have one, before you joke about it.
1894, you should get that by now.

Go kick your horse, SB dearest. Isn't that step one or something?
Too bad no-one liked the Xenophon quote eh?
wtf did HE know, anyway..

Kestrel, thanks for that biggest snork I've had in a week... Which I believe, was also one of your comments..

Back to my life, under that rock, that no-one believes I live under.

Oh, almost forgot.

To Horses, with intelligent handlers.
amen.
(kissy noises)

Paddy, put down that fossilized crap! It's valuable!

Kaede said...

OK you all, I'm asking you to hold your thumbs for me, or rather my husband. My houseboy just got a call back from a company to head their E-Commerce division. First one since his big auto related company went belly up in May. I love my houseboy dearly, but I want him to "explore business relationships outside of the home". In other words, I'm tired of being managed by a man who is use to having a division to fuss over.

Dena said...

Oh I can live with CSE.

CCC if I win the lottery you can choose a fall home for my family and I.
And I will leave the incomparable Jaz with you
during the spring, summer, and winter months.

CSE I hesitate to ask this question. But have you ever seen a dog come out of the paralysis stage of lymes?
And have quality of life without relapse?
The odds didn't seem to be good.
So I made a decision of best interest separate from sentiment.
I hesitate to ask because the truth is I will always wonder.

GL did you really? Naw... Not your style.

Kestrel? Oh my... Bout time you reappeared.
Now where is that bhm?
SWA seems to have headed for less polluted waters.
And Mommasheesh are you reading and staying silent too?

WildCaballo said...

GoLightly

Ummm, who or what is Trojan's blog? How do you end up in it?

I see there is yet another wild fire in California... Sad to see...

Hephaestus has been busy in the state of California.

*note the Google skillz* LOL

CharlesCityCat said...

Kaede:

I would think that would definitely get tiresome to have the hubby around all the time. Mine has 10 weeks off a year, which is great in many ways, but he tends to get in trouble if he isn't occupied at work. He had a week off in April and now we have 15 alpacas.

Fingers crossed for Mr. Kaede.

SFTS said...

Best of luck to your hubby, Kaede! Keeping fingers crossed for you (Errr...for your sake?), too! :)

SFTS said...

Yup WC, another fire. This one is up near Santa Cruz. We've got friends who live up there, last year's fire burned right up to their mailbox. Scary stuff.

I hate fires. :(

CharlesCityCat said...

Dena, sounds like a plan and you are right, not GL's style at all.

You did the right thing by Nelson. I had to put one of my Dalmations down due to uncontrollable seizure disorder. It was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do, he was young. On one hand, I continue to think there should have been some way to make him better, but I know deep in my heart, I know that I did the right thing.

WildCaballo said...

CCC

Lol, at new Alpacas.

My parents missed me when I left the ranch. But didn't miss me bringing home orphan animals. :-) During my visit home this summer, we all had a good laugh about the amount of money my parents save on feed.

GoLightly said...

Thumbs UP, kaede, am I ever in that boat...

WildC, no, not me, jeeesh.
reading skills are a challenge, especially with me.
i know, I'm sorrrrry..
No Dena, that was kidding, wasn't it?
what did I say Now??
Oh, right, the cat. Yup, kidding, yup, sorry.
I was snuggling one yesterday, gawd I miss cats....

991...

Trojan's Blog

Dena said...

Mine has been home for a few years now with surgical repairs and recoveries.
I am chuckling when I read Kaedes oh so kind manner of referring to what can be a very interesting trial.

He too was in a supervisory capacity.

My son says it best, "Daddy does Mommy need to get the broom again?"

GoLightly said...

Funniest blog Trojan has done, in ages IMO.
She always makes me snork though..

OH, crap..

I just realized what I've done, CNJ:(

It was so peaceful over there...
:(

WildCaballo said...

GoLightly

I guess my comment should have read "How does one end up on the Trojan blog?" I didn't mean for it to sound as though YOU ended up there.

CharlesCityCat said...

Dena:

That boy of yours certainly has a way with words. Does he ever say stuff in public that you wish he hadn't?

GoLightly said...

Who will it be??
Drum roll, please...

To JR & CNJ!!!!!!!

GoLightly said...

(roflmao)

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