Tuesday, July 21, 2009

BWAP! Right in the Face!

So I go check out FHOTD today and what hits me right in the face when the page loads......more shit being flung!

It never ceases to amaze me that FHOTD brings out this kind of hostility amongst it's readers.

What is it about that blog that no one can get past the bullshit and stick to the topic at hand?

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littledog said...

More:
If anybody posts a website advertising their services, they are fair game for criticism. I don't care how old they are, because they are representing themselves as a business person who is capable of entering into business contracts with clients. If that's not true, all the more reason to spread the "buyer beware" word.
Criticising them is no different from criticising a CL ad, a silly TV ad, or making one of those fake WalMart ads you see on YouTube.
And public information (such as a court record) is just that: public. There is no law against sharing that information, or expressing opinions about that information. If someone chooses to use that information to stalk or harass someone, well, the person doing the stalking or harassing is breaking the law. The person who gave them the information has not.

For example, our state has a website where you can find information on registered sex offenders. It doesn't suggest that you follow them home and harass them. It was ruled legal under the Constitution.

Dena said...

FF you are not debating you are attempting to add slant.
As you are neither Google, Blogger or me? Or, Cathy for that matter, you may want to rethink presenting your speculation as fact.
Not because I am implyiong some dark and mysterious thing will happen to you.
Mostly, just that you have a tendency to argue, no matter how politely, wild speculation and your opinion, as fact.
I will not readdress the whole ABR thing with you.
Many of them did apologize you know? For dishing to me what they did not to the people who did deliberately defraud them
Have you checked the followers at LBTD recently?
Jeez...no offense FF, but you really do come across as a whiner.
And in serious withdrawl from your daily dose of commentary on fhotd.
As, you are also not a member of Google's legal team I will most likely reject your findings with regard to their terms and conditions.
You have a tendency to become skewed on the integral realitites and twist them to your liking.

BuckdOff said...

I'm sure you are the supreme expert on all legalities..dena...And you're like that party guest who overstays their welcome....You just have to come back here to gloat, you have no platform now that Cathy's blog is closed/private...Deny that you were begging for others to pay your bills on ABR? Sell some "stuff", dena, maybe one of your Mexican vacation properties? Who's whining now? Not us, we have our pick of blogs, even moderated ones, the world is our oyster! Unlike you,'cause doors are closed to dena, people are tired of your endless, crazy, ranting. Gotta go now dena, places to go, people to see!

SFTS said...

rosesr4evr wrote:
I didn't mention anyone by name, although you're awful quick to name the one that first comes to your mind though aren't you??
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Well, gee golly gosh, the mentioned individual is the only person who has ever sought or had granted a TRO against me, so it is an easy deduction, is it not? *eyeroll*

RO's are very rarely applied unjustly, so it's more likely you had/have been doing something along those lines.
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So now you're a legal expert on things happening in California?! WOW!! Amazing. You were here, on my property, in my home, watching the happenings, too? Or just ASS-uming what you want to think actually happened?

So you and Serendipity can bring up ABR, reference her past, paste her personal medical/mental/legal info and it's all good??
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I have not brought up ABR, I have not referenced her past, I have not posted her personal info at all whatsoever. And nothing of the sort on this thread whatsoever. Weeks ago I posted a few links to publicly available information. On the other hand, she has posted Cathy's apparent home address on this very thread. That is acceptable to you? I do believe you really need to "get" what flying fig was attempting to tell you all.

SFTS said...

Dena wrote:
For someone lecturing and questioning another on their reading skills SFTS you should reread JRs comment.
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This coming from the woman who jumped all over a grieving man for tell her to knock her shit off. Amazing, isn't it?

And you really are displaying rather obsessive tendencies yourself.
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LMAO...more pot, meet kettle. Dena's really good at that. ;)

BuckdOff said...

Look, Roses, I brought up ABR. Not SFTS. I really think you mean well, but distance yourself from dena, she does not have anyone's best interests at heart. She threatened to release info on me, which I found interesting 'cause as far as I know, nothing exists. People have cut dena loads of slack, she has nailed them later, one after the other. It's just the nature of the beast.

SFTS said...

flying fig wrote:
Lovely, SFTS - so why respond in kind? An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and the whole world winds up blind and toothless...
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FF, I respect your opinions and I generally agree with what you have to say. This is no different. However, the illustration was necessary in order to continue to show the world the Dena does not walk the walk any more than she can talk the talk. She talks out of both sides of her mouth, that has never changed and I doubt it ever will. Call it a reality check. And yes, I do believe in an eye for an eye.

SFTS said...

Sock monkeys (as in the true internet definition) also do not go over big with Google. Right now there is a fuglyhorseoftheday posting to say assorted ridiculous things that is not Cathy. This Fugly cannot grasp the difference between your and you're... and definitely falls under this category..

>>> IMPERSONATION: We do not allow impersonation of others through our services in a manner that is intended to or does mislead or confuse others. <<<

... and Google would have access to IPs etc.

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When I was dealing with "my" imposter, that was sorted out quickly after contacting Blogger, however there is a rather drawn out process, including mailing a hardcopy letter outlining a number of things under their conditions, what the violation is, where it took place, EXACT addresses/URL's to the posts made by the imposter and so forth.

>>> UNLAWFUL USE OF SERVICES: Our products and services should not be used for unlawful purposes or for promotion of dangerous and illegal activities. Your account may be terminated and you may be reported to the appropriate authorities. <<<

If any truly illegal was going on, Google would not hesitate to nuke the whole blog. They have to cover their asses if there is even a whiff of such things.

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I am thinking you're right about that, though it would take something really Earth shattering in order for them to take action.

My guess is that Cathy took away the comments merely because she was finally tired of the imbeciles taking advantage of HER blog, and that was evidenced by her comment that some folks just cannot seem to behave themselves with given the ability to have their voices heard. Dena is a prime example of that, and she continues to exemplify that statement.

SFTS said...

littledog wrote:
If anybody posts a website advertising their services, they are fair game for criticism. I don't care how old they are, because they are representing themselves as a business person who is capable of entering into business contracts with clients. If that's not true, all the more reason to spread the "buyer beware" word.

Criticising them is no different from criticising a CL ad, a silly TV ad, or making one of those fake WalMart ads you see on YouTube.

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My website has been ripped apart by a few individuals on the FHOTD blog over the six months I have been there. That IMO is fully fair, go to town. ;)

Further, I believe it has always been the parents of those children who's (publicly found) pictures have been posted on FHOTD that have come under attack. I have seen no one "attacking" any small children AT ALL.

And public information (such as a court record) is just that: public. There is no law against sharing that information, or expressing opinions about that information.

If someone chooses to use that information to stalk or harass someone, well, the person doing the stalking or harassing is breaking the law. The person who gave them the information has not.

For example, our state has a website where you can find information on registered sex offenders. It doesn't suggest that you follow them home and harass them. It was ruled legal under the Constitution.

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Exactly. Thank you!!

When I was involved in an unsavory thread over at the FSH forum, there was all sorts of "public information" posted about myself and my family.

What I do find reprehensible is Dena's "eye for an eye" attitude when coming from her perspective after she has REPEATEDLY stated that she did not feel it was right to lash out in anger (which she has fully admitted on her own blogs) and said, over and over, that she would refrain from such behavior. Eye for an eye, if done in a responsible fashion, is fine. Personal vendettas when done for personal satisfaction are not.

SFTS said...

BuckdOff wrote:
Look, Roses, I brought up ABR. Not SFTS. I really think you mean well, but distance yourself from dena, she does not have anyone's best interests at heart. She threatened to release info on me, which I found interesting 'cause as far as I know, nothing exists. People have cut dena loads of slack, she has nailed them later, one after the other. It's just the nature of the beast.
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Thanks BuckdOff and very well said.

Some folks I have talked to lament the loss of who rosesr4evr was when she first arrived at FHOTD. Now she has simply become Dena's parrot, repeating everything Dena says, spouting off about things Dena becomes indignant about ad nauseum.

I wouldn't know, by the time I first encountered roses, she was already harping away about Cathy.

Serendipity said...

FF- I don't always agree with you, but that was made of win and kittens.

Ah, there are so many cat macros I could post right now.



I told this story on the Free Speech board, but I'll tell it here again.

A few years ago...okay, it was probably more like ten or twelve... I was a young(er) and slightly less cynical individual. The redhead wasn't born yet. I didn't frequent any horse communities online, but there was one general interest EZBoard with a gamer slant that I hung around.

Along came a certain person, who, even over an internet connection, gave off a feeling of... well, I can only compare it to the feeling I got after seeing Crazy Dena's first post. He was abrasive, obsessive, took everything personally, would be kind to a user in one post and turn around and attack them the next.

Most of the users just ignored him, or a few figured he was just socially-retarded and tried to extend the hand of friendship. (We're gamers after all) But the owner of the board felt bad that contact with him tended to make the other uses raise their quills, and offered him support.

Here's where things get a little fuzzy. I -think- what happened was the mod went away for a week, and this guy flipped out. Basically left panic-shit all over the board. Sent her a million emails asking where she was and what she was doing, saying he loved her more than anyone. Emailed all her friends, told them he was completely in love with her, et al.

When the mod came back she was understandably freaked out. Asked him repeatedly to stop. He found her phone number and her address, and this was in the days -before- Google. She was afraid to get a restraining order and afraid he was going to come after her, and EZBoard didn't seem to care about their own terms of use, so she blocked him.

Cue this idiot trolling every related blog, stalking other users, harassing everyone that had spoken to her, criticizing anyone that was still friends with her because he loved her and was so hurt that she could treat a good friend this way. You know, stuff very similar to what Crazy Dena has been doing.

The mod withdrew from the board and disappeared for a couple months to deal with the anxiety he caused her. As for this asshole? He eventually was irrevocably banned from the server for impersonating EZBoard staff. Don't know where he is now.

So I am a veteran of this sort of silly shit, and I see it ending one of two ways. Neither one bodes particularly well for Crazy Dena.



(For the record, just about the only thing regarding me you'd find online would be a free gallery of poorly-done draconian art. We artists tend to keep a low profile online to avoid stalkers.)

Dena said...

Good Lord when do the I think based on my degree from the cracker jack box analysis stop?
It isn't all about me.
And yet, all SOME of you seem able to post about is, in fact, your fixation with me.
Pathetic really.
Just as is Miss I have no comments attempt to
have comments.
Have a nice day people. I actually do have a life that some of you don't feature in so feel free to do whatever it is you think you are doing.

GoLightly said...

back to deuce.

213th.....

leonard_mccoy said...

Hmmm, so Serendipity, are you saying that there is the possibility of fugly withdrawing and experiencing anxiety due to (possibly)baseless accusations, exposure and lashing out from an internet person?

Am I the only one that sees any irony in this?

Serendipity said...

No no, I'm not comparing Fugly to the mod, I'm comparing Dena to Mental Cockman. (Not his username, just what we called him.)

Fugly has shown repeatedly that she does not care about the fall-out or any other result of her blog. She only closed the comments when the trolling just got to ridiculous levels. I think she's just in it for the Lulz. I know I am!

rosesr4evr said...

Bones,

LMAO

Lots of irony.

BuckdOff said...

Thanks, I have cautioned people who seem to think Dena means no harm, she does, and has shown herself to be unstable. Keep your eyes open if you happen to be a target of her wrath. She obviously feels empowered now, so who knows what will happen. I'm done.

ZTIG said...

any bets on when she comes back, even though she's done?

ZTIG said...

Yup, she has stuff on every one and has process servers on their way to every one... I'm still waiting for mine. :)

rosesr4evr said...

^^^^^
Puts me in mind of a song!
Styx-Hangman

"Oh mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my runnin'
And I'm so far from my home

Oh, Mama, I can hear you a cryin'
You're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows
And I don't have very long

The jig is up, the news is out, they finally found me
A renegade who had it made, retrieved for a bounty
Nevermore to go astray, this will be the end today
I'm a wanted man

Oh, Mama, I've been here on the lam
And had a high price on my head
Lawman said get dead or alive
I was for sure he'd shoot me dead."

ZTIG said...

lol Roses!

flying fig said...

>>FF you are not debating you are attempting to add slant.<<

HUH? Dena - I just choked on my latte....
It was all JMO and thoughts - which is what all of us are sharing. I know you do not give a flying fig (heh) about what anyone thinks unless they are echoing you - you have made that clear - but we all have a "slant" to our opinions. Yours has gotten rather steep and extremely slippery at times lately.

>>As you are neither Google, Blogger or me? Or, Cathy for that matter, you may want to rethink presenting your speculation as fact.<<

All I did was present my observations and thoughts - based on the facts from Blogger's Content rules. Nothing more. A lot of what you solemnly lecture us about is also not absolute fact, Dena. This is a discussion and a debate. All opinions/concerns welcome.

Anything you say is peachy-keen, no matter how rude or threatening... we get it. Understood. But you cannot expect us all to just nod and smile and accept it like the sheep you accuse us of being...

>>Jeez...no offense FF, but you really do come across as a whiner.<<

Huh. There was not a single whine in anything that I said. You just want to dismiss it that way as I forewarned. As you wish. A whiner spams comments or forums to the point of annoyance, losing their potentially valid concerns in a heap of verbiage. A whiner beats people over the head with their lofty opinions while insisting that everyone else is lying/wrong/misguided/sheep-like. That dead horse is beaten into dust. And.... I have done none of that.

>>And in serious withdrawl from your daily dose of commentary on fhotd.<<

OMG!! LMAO!! Sorry - i have to pause to catch my breath...

*gasp*

Dena - there were times when I did not comment at FHOTD for days/weeks. It all depended on the topic - and the schedule around here. I post Elsewhere much more regularly. You had outposted me (and almost everyone else) by at least 20 to 1 at FHOTD of late. I do not think I am the one going through withdrawal - I have and always have had other "communities " to visit. Where posts like some of those you revelled in at FHOTD would be laughed at and torched. You have your own blogs to play on - and yet you used FHOTD as your personal playground and shooting gallery. People were weary of it. There were better ways to come across and better ways to handle the situation.

>>As, you are also not a member of Google's legal team I will most likely reject your findings with regard to their terms and conditions.<<

*shrug*

All I did was note the Content rules... and offer my thoughts as to what any perspective issues might be. What Hate Crimes? Such a loaded word to be tossing around! You are also not a member of Google's legal team. I saw some Google correspondance with the friend I mentioned earlier - and they ended up telling her that her claims were unfounded... that ITO she was harrassing other Google members inappropriately - as well as them. Her IP would be logged and she would be denied access to Blogger and other related Google sites.
That is what it said - I cannot duplicate the exact legalese.

>>You have a tendency to become skewed on the integral realitites and twist them to your liking.<<

I am aware of the "integral realities " (much better choice of words than those you have favoured of late, BTW). We all have our individual approaches to things. But your twists of late have assumed pretzel status. It was hard to keep up with your lectures but unlike others who likely gave up and collapsed your comments, I struggled to make sense of them. You insisted that everyone wade through post after repetitive post. You diluted and cheapened your message with your presentation via a rather poor choice of words, threats and sheer monotony.

I would be curious as to what those heinous Hate Crimes at FHOTD were... could you please cite examples? Other than your angry Jewess rant at buckd off?

rosesr4evr said...

This is an interesting read:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CaliforniaHighDesertHorses/messages/81?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1

Some quotes:


"Yes, I know EXACTLY where she lives, and that's the worst part ~ she lives RIGHT HERE in XXXXXXX! She is literally right down the street from me! I took a little trail ride right past her place last Thursday, just to scout things out."

"So, yesterday I went in to talk to her teacher and I have an appointment to speak with the school principal. I figured having the school contact CPS with me doing just a followup would carry more weight than me going it alone. Also, I have contacted Federal Fish & Wildlife authorities about the black market hawk breeding, and they are very interested in pursuing. Then, once those two balls are rolling, I'll involve the Sheriff's Department"


"Also, I am going to start contacting the breeders and sellers (as well as the registries on the registered horses) of all these horses she has. This is going to be a long road..."

"I want dibs on the cute little Half Arab POA colt if they get confiscated. ;) He is a doll!"


"seems to think she is invincible and above everything that is going to happen with these investigations and agencies which I'm getting rolling on."

"until this kid and her mother are in jail"

"Tomorrow I am also going to the Sheriff's Department and both local newspapers."

End quotes.


Geez louise is there anybody you haven't sicced on her??

flying fig said...
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flying fig said...

Have to post-ho because Blogger is obviously prejudiced against the iong-winded...

SFTS... here is why I believe that in this context an eye for an eye does not work. Just like Dena repeating her vituperative rants over and over again - the message is lost. You become that which you profess to dislike. Better to point things out and then just leave them hanging. If you do not like an action, why mirror it? JMO - which ain't worth a hill of beans in this here crazy world... ;-)

roses... I thought that that person/issue was not to be brought up here from now on as per JR's wishes...

rosesr4evr said...

I didn't directly name any one in my post, except to post an addy to a web page. If you don't want to know what it was you don't have to visit the page. Simply as that.

ZooKeeper said...

I've followed FHOTD for a couple years now, and like a lot of other folks have found the blog to be in a steady downward spiral. its sad because it used to be a good site for discussion and learning new things. I only posted on one occasion and was just blown off, so I never bothered again.

Her current mode of presentation is just a waste of our time. Her views and no one elses...comments hand picked by "the goddess" her self...my ass.

Dena and SFTS...you are both way off the deep end. I'm sorry...but you come back day after day and talk...no make that rant...about the same damn stuff over and over! WTF? What good is it doing? NONE! Both of you have to always have the last word and so it NEVER ENDS!

Get a grip on yourselves!

Think about all the time you have wasted throwing words at each other and the good things you could have done with those hours.

Neither one of you is going to "win" this discussion, so why don't you just LET IT GO. Get on with your lives and do something productive with the energy and time you would have spent slinging mud.

Life is too short gals.

Grow up.

ZM

SFTS said...

ZTIG, I am seriously LOLing...she ALWAYS comes back, it NEVER ends, she will NEVER be done. Until someone cuts off her internet access or she lands herself in jail or a mental institution again, it isn't going to stop.

I'm waiting for the process server as well. Don't hold your breath! ;)

Flying Fig, reading your post to Dena I found myself nodding to what you were saying so much it almost gave me a headache. Well done!

SFTS said...

Roses, LMAO, do you really have nothing better to do than go searching for everywhere I have ever posted anything on the internet on any subject? Rehashing old (read the dates on those emails) shit from many months ago, everything which had already been said/posted on the FSH forum and is ALL well known. *eyeroll*

Not to mention, as FF stated, JR specifically requested that none of the info on that individual be brought here. Do you believe you are above the law with in your local town as well, or just prefer to piss all over someone else's blog?

Claiming "Well I didn't NAME anyone specifically" Waaah Waaah Waaah why-are-you-picking-on-little-old-me makes you look like an ignorant imbecile.

Oooops, I pulled a Dena and threw a name calling insult. Oh, well.

SFTS said...

flying fig wrote:
SFTS... here is why I believe that in this context an eye for an eye does not work. Just like Dena repeating her vituperative rants over and over again - the message is lost. You become that which you profess to dislike. Better to point things out and then just leave them hanging. If you do not like an action, why mirror it? JMO - which ain't worth a hill of beans in this here crazy world... ;-)

Hey, all I did was give her a little bit of her own medicine. ;)

Of course, it appears at this point that the message might just be getting across. Not that I believe she will keep her word and really, truly, FINALLY be done as she has endlessly claimed. But the idea is a nice one, isn't it?

flying fig said...

Sorry for all the typos, folks - I have lost my ability to type coherently, it seems... oh well... far to much to attend to in RL to dwell on that - big show this weekend!

ZooKeeper - please don't be a stranger!

flying fig said...

Crap.

*brain fart*

I posted before I added the important part. GL - or any Canadian types ;-) - check out this Wild Horse Redemption special on CBC on Sunday night... it looks interesting...

GoLightly said...

Hey, Zookeeper!! Where ya been??
How's the harpsichord making coming?
I was just wondering where you were.. Wow.

I used to be able to do that with my customers. Think of them, and they will call.

Maybe my powers have moved to the net.

(I'm thinking of Brad Pitt)

SFTS said...

ZooKeeper ~ I understand what you are saying, though I disagree with you about FHOTD on some levels.

It was Dena's manic, how was it that Serendipity put it? Microwave brand of crazy...that caused Cathy to finally give up on having comments freely available to the public and therefore made her blog only about her opinions. Brilliant, wouldn't you say?

In truth, I do have an incredibly busy life and honestly I would rather spend my online time enjoying myself, reading what interests me, communicating with my friends and my peers as well as those with similar interests, instead of constantly having to engage one Dena Rodacker.

We have our next show one week from tomorrow, and I have been very busy making sure kids and horses are ready to compete. Unfortunately out here in the desert, it's been unbearably hot during the day and I'm stuck inside for a few hours. I long for the day that I do not have to refute some bullshit or other than Dena spouts off about me. Would be nice... :)

GoLightly said...

"do not have to"

No, you really don't have to, ya know.

BittyBonnie said...

I have been posting on Fugly for a long time. Obviously under a different screen name.

Since JR came to the blogs I have seen a major transformation in his attitude. Though I still believe that he will always call it like he sees it and it will be no holds barred when he does, he has definitley changed. I think he is the type to forgive and forget. I have since gained a whole lot of respect for JR, in not just his professionalism but also in his training methods. I was so happy when he started his training blog. There is definitely
a lot of knowlege there that we can all learn from.

As far as this blog goes, I would hope that all of you will respect his wishes
and keep your arguments to yourselves. SFTS, perhaps you can learn from JR's professionalism and not drag anymore of your life into this blog.

The loss of Cathys comment section is a sad thing. I would hate to see this blog follow suit.

SFTS said...

GoLightly wrote:
No, you really don't have to, ya know.
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Oh, but au contraire, GL. When someone goes off the deep end about myself, my family, my friends, my business and my life in general, not refuting the bullshit and lies would essentially be admitting that the someone was actually factual or correct in what they are saying.

Which I am guessing is why you yourself have continued to challenge Cathy, right? For the record, I believe you are fully justified in wanting to know where and how your donations were spent.

SFTS said...

DillanDVillan, I do have to ask, why bother coming up with an alter to post here? Doing so does not make much sense to me. Maybe you can help me understand that position by explaining your reasoning?

I agree with you about JR's blog, though I do wish he would spend more time putting up training posts and less time allowing the "parties" to get so out of hand.

This is where you and I part ways in our thinking. Because JR did allow Dena a free rein to attack and not be moderated. I wouldn't have tolerated it, which is why my first post on my new blog last weekend stated right up front that there would be NO flaming or attacking whatsoever, or comments would be severely moderated. I have no problem with passionate discussion and heated discourse. But flames, attacks and slinging mud is never acceptable in my book.

To me, the "professional" thing to do is to not allow the above in any way, shape or form. Hence, how I administer my blog ~ in a very professional way. :)

As far as this blog goes, I would hope that all of you will respect his wishes and keep your arguments to yourselves.
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Did you not read the entire intent of this blog?? This blog was created for those very arguments. Initially, to keep them off the comments section of FHOTD. Hopefully this will also keep the venom off JR's training blog from now on. Most of us are very grateful to JR for making this place, so the nastiness and flames stay away from the blogs on serious topics.

bhm said...

Zoo Keeper,
Hi, we've missed you at the usually watering hole. Drop by and say hi.

horspoor said...

Well this reminded Roses of one song. It reminds me of another by the Eagles...

Get Over It

I turn on the tube; what do I see,
A whole lot a people cryin' "don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers at everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; and your daddy's too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

You say ya haven't been the same since ya had your little crash
But you might feel better if they gave you some cash
The more I think about it, ol' Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers- kill 'em tonight
You don't wanna work you wanna live like a king
But the big bad world doesn't owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
Ya don't want to play then you might as well split
Get over it, get over it

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
Your makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but i call it weak
Yeah yeah yeah

Yeah you drag it around like a ball an' chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down
Ya bitch about the present and blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child an' kick it's little ass

Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it
Get over it
Get over it
It's gotta stop some time so why don't you quit
Get over it, get over it
Get over it

Sherry Sikstrom said...

Are we there yet?

rosesr4evr said...

HP,


LOL Music is a great thing isn't it??

BittyBonnie said...

Sfts

The reason for the new screen name is because I want to start fresh.

As far as the Fridat night blog parties. I can understand why he does it. He does it to take a break from horses which besides his family is the focus of his life. And the only time a party got out of hand was when you and Dena got into it. JR as well as everyone had to tell you repeatedly to cut the shit. And that was the only time.

Dena said...

I love The Eagles and Styx. Hotel California, Desperado, Get Over It, and Hangman.


I had work today and more tonight. Can't say as I am sorry to have missed most of this.

You know when I want a horse I usually get out my checkbook.
The world really has changed.

The last person that took a run like that at one of my kids did some serious time in a locked facility.

Jeeze, I don't think any rational minded individual could blame me for getting the impression it might be about me from all the reference to me.

SFTS said...

DillanDVillan wrote:
The reason for the new screen name is because I want to start fresh.
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I can understand that. Personally I prefer to keep my identity intact, so folks can't accuse me of having multiple screen names. Oh, wait. Dena has already done that. ;)

And the only time a party got out of hand was when you and Dena got into it. JR as well as everyone had to tell you repeatedly to cut the shit. And that was the only time.
- - - - - - - -

Not exactly. Dena came after me on more than one of JR's blog posts. I also repeatedly attempted to ignore her, however she continued the tantrums, like the obnoxious three year old child stomping her feet and saying "You CAN'T make me! So THERE!" until I got fed up with her and gave her as good as she was trying to give me.

On the topic of music...yeah, music is a wonderful thing. Especially sitting here enjoying it with my daughter. :) *Sings along to Indestructible*

SFTS said...

Btw, OT...Flying Fig, best of luck at your show this weekend. It's our turn next weekend!

BittyBonnie said...

Whether or not Dena started it, you should ignore it.

I also know it bothers you when people ask for JR's advice and not yours. But it shouldn't. Maybe you should listen and learn. There is something about his method that attracts people. I guess it is simple.

Please understand SFTS, this is not an attack on you at all, just an observation.

ZTIG said...

Zookeeper,
The current comment issue is a direct result of a certain party posting a certain address. Not because she wants it that way.

I'm sorry you felt blown off, but it is entirely possible with the amount of comments posted on there that the person who needed to respond to your question/comment/statement never saw it.

You should never take a lack of response personal. There are too many people commenting and if everyone responded to everyone, each comment section would reach epic proportions.

As to the rest of it... well sometimes poking it with a stick is just fun. =) I know, sick & twisted. But it's like rubber necking past an accident, sometimes you just can't resist.

ZTIG said...

Roses,
Did something major change in your life recently? No offense, I really am wondering. It seems like you have an influx of time on your hands.

BittyBonnie said...

Anyway. I have to run.

Hubby is taking me out on a date. He loves me;)

SFTS said...

DillanDVillan wrote:
Whether or not Dena started it, you should ignore it.
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Possibly. But I will not fail to refute lies, and as ZTIG says, sometimes it really is just like rubbernecking at a train wreck. Sometimes you just can't resist.

I also know it bothers you when people ask for JR's advice and not yours.
- - - - - - - -

LMAO...where on Earth would you have gotten a ridiculously silly notion like that. Besides, folks ask me for advice all the time...it's just usually not on a blog. Hence, after hundreds of folks asking me to please start my own, I finally relented (after resisting for several years). ;)

horspoor said...

Okay, this is painful to watch. Going to go see if JR has posted the Friday party.

leonard_mccoy said...

Serendipity said...
Mental Cockman
_______________________

That just made my favorites list. :)

rosesr4evr said...

ZTIG,

Yes I've had a major life change recently. I'm unemployed for the moment (last day was 16th) so I can concentrate on big event! We are MOVING!!! Yay! We just bought our first home.

It's appx 30 min drive from current location, so not feasible to drive an hour for my job, plus my clients weren't all in one time block. I might have a client at 10am then my 2nd client wouldn't be until 7:30pm. (health care)

So for now, I have a little time to just relax before the crazy time of packing, moving, unpacking and planning our son's first B-day party that is scheduled for the weekend after we get to take possesion of the house, begins. FUN FUN FUN.

I will FINALLY be able to have my horse at the house that I live at! I'd previously leased a small barn/pasture with access to miles of park trails, which was nicer than boarding but having my horse right outside my door will be heaven.

The reason why there's chunks of time breaks in my posts is I usually just walk by puter, see what's going on, post what I have to say, then go throw in more laundry, make a bottle, change a diaper, vacuum, run the dishwasher, pack some things, etc. I do this rather than watch tv.

SFTS said...

Congratulations on buying your house, roses. That's really very exciting. I'm genuinely happy for you!

We are in the market, so to speak. Prices are good, terms are great and by the end of the year we hope to be closing escrow on the farm of our dreams.

Until then, I feel lucky enough that I have such wonderful places to work horses out of, and that I can have my own horses right at home. It really, truly is Heaven. :)

rosesr4evr said...

Thanks! Although your market is crazy priced!!

Around here the median price for anything with more than 3 acres starts at $175,000 to topping out at about $400,000. That's just for a 2000sqft, maybe 3 bd 2ba, with or without horse facilities. I've seen some of the property prices else where and I'm floored!

JohnieRotten said...

Congrats Roses!

Buying your first home is always a great feeling.

I remember how it felt when we bought this place. Now we are ready to sell and move to the PNW! A new Rotten adventure will begin!

Anonymous said...

Congrats on the new house!

I wish I'd known I was going to have a horse when we bought ours! I'm also in CA though, and in my area 1/2 acre zoned for horses would run between $250 and $400! And my husband won't move now anyways. Oh well.

Congrats again, and it is so cool you will be able to have your horses at home!

ZTIG said...

Congrats Roses!!! That is awesome! You will LOVE having your horse at home. Having lived on the same ranch with mine for years, I can tell you will never want to have them away again.
It's hard for vacations (finding someone you trust to care for them) when it isn't a boarding facility, but it is SOOOO worth looking out your kitchen window and seeing you horse.

LMAO my word verification is maneyou!

ZTIG said...

Roses where are you located?

rosesr4evr said...

NHM-

Just horse. :-( Just the old redhead with the choppy short strided lope. So next year when I get my tax return, SO says I can use it for my show horse purchase. It's been being put off by one thing or another for the last 3 years. But that's okay, because now that we bought the house, it has 4 acres that are shaded by intermittent mature hickory trees and I don't have to board anymore or lease!! We got a great deal though, 4 bd, 3ba, att gar, huge deck, abv grnd pool, and a pond for under $200,000. Not too shabby!!

I really love it. Now we just have to build the barn and put in the fencing. I want to do board fencing in the front(along the road) and no climb w/ board topper everywhere else. Also, we're only putting in 3 stall for the barn and one is a wash stall! That way I'm not tempted!

rosesr4evr said...

ZTIG

Central Illinois. Prices are very reasonable here compared to some that I've seen. Plus we have plenty of horse business here, access to quality, affordable hay, places to ride, etc. It's a very friendly state to horses and horse people.

Anonymous said...

4 acres! Now I am depressed...

ZTIG said...

I have a friend in Chicago area, she is a TB fanatic.
Prices are VERY reasonable. Of course, they usually are anywhere outside of California. =)

ZTIG said...

NHM,
What is your husbands passion/interest? Is there a way to convince him that acreage would benefit what he wants to do?

rosesr4evr said...

CAli prices really ARE crazy!

NHM-no worries! We have extra bedroom!! We can swim in the pool, sun ourselves on the deck while the steaks are cooking on the grill, of course this is after we go ride in one of the nearby state parks!

rosesr4evr said...

We're further south than CHI area and the prices are even more reasonable.

Anonymous said...

ZTIG,

Unfortunately, his passion is our backyard, which after 8 years, finally has everything he has ever desired (pool, outdoor pool table, tiki hut, bar, etc.).

He could re-create it on a larger scale on acreage, but it would require a lot more money! And he'll never move anywhere cold. He is actually gleeful when it's 110 degrees. Meanwhile, the dogs, cats, and myself all line up in front of the AC!

rosesr4evr said...

AACK!! 110 degrees?? No way! I'll take winter time anytime over that! At least if it's cold I can always put on more clothes, instead of having to take them off. It's probably better that way around for everybody LOL!!

Serendipity said...

I'd love to have my horse in my backyard, but I live in a very suburbanized area, and we all know how well that worked for Peter Rabbit.

Does everyone with their horses at home have liability insurance? What's the average monthly premium?

horspoor said...

I have personal and professional liability. Many homeowners policies extend coverage from your home to your horses...whether they are at your home, or at a stable. You should check with your agent.

USEF gives an automatic $1,000,000 when you join. It is an assocation policy. The coverage only extends to the member. It can be at home, at a show etc... it however does not extend to family members.

Most personal individual plans I've seen run around $200+ a year.

Professional liability usually has a minimum premium coverage amount. Often starts at $500 a year. You can add additonal coverages...like care custody control. Premiums are often based on annual receipts, how many horses, lessons etc...

SFTS said...

Dena Rodacker, be aware that your harassing posts which disappeared into archives yesterday evening, as well as the comments therein, which in your most recent posting on "Living Beyond The Dream" you admit to wanting to remove because of their nature and content have been saved prior to your deletion of them. Also take note that all of your harassing and defaming comments on FHOTD as well as various other forums and blogs have been saved as well, lest you browbeat other forum and blog owners into removing them for you to give the appearance that you have not engaged in such behavior. Be forewarned that further harassing and defaming behavior from you will not be tolerated.

GoLightly said...

Hey, JR & CNJ, one silly question.

Why would you want to leave heat and dry and warmth and no snow and no rain, for the PNW??

Toronto has been having PNW weather this summer.
i.e. No sun, tons of rain, kinda cold. Crappy.

From what I've read from other commenters, PNW weather is, um, crappy.

sigh.
I want to have a summer, please. And you want to leave a place that has many many summer days?

Best of luck, wherever you end up!
Don't forget your umbrella;)

and a poncho, and lots of towels, and rain-sheets and.....

Just thought I'd fill up the silence.
You could hear a PIN drop, around here.

Dena said...

Please be aware that I have much more to add to that blog today.
Please be aware it may even run through this next week.
Please be aware that your threats do not frighten me.
Please also be aware as I am King Henry the VIII I am unconcerned by your threats.
Or, is it Queen Elizabeth I?
wanders off singing *it is good to be king*

Drsgjunky said...

SFTS...

I know this is REALLY hard to do, but if you ignore her, don't give her anything to eat, nadda, nothing, not even the slightest recognition. It will go away.

SFTS said...

Drsgjunky wrote:
SFTS...

I know this is REALLY hard to do, but if you ignore her, don't give her anything to eat, nadda, nothing, not even the slightest recognition. It will go away.

- - - - - - - -

I am dutifully ignoring her now that there has been made a public warning to cease the behavior. :)

What is almost painfully funny is, everything that has been added to her blog (I always want to call it her blah blah...because that is all that's ever posted there, lol) has been "out there" on the internet for months. Many months before the action which she is purportedly "reporting" me for even transpired. I am highly amused about it all, though. What cracks me up most is that she stated that she intends to flag her own blog for posting my comments (which I have never hidden from nor even attempted to delete whatsoever, because I stand behind my words) from Yahoo and Yuku services. Isn't that a hoot?

And with that, I hope to be done. :)

So, how is your day going? And the rest of our terrific commenters here? It's pretty darn hot here, high 90's, so I am inside enjoying the air conditioning for a while before heading back out to tackle getting more done and before lessons start for the afternoon.

ZTIG said...

My days good SFTS, Woke up at 430 am...waiting until the sun came up to go start soaking the hay for morning feeding and what do I see? My girls hanging in my front yard. Hmmm. I think, did the app learn how to unlatch the stall door? Crap.
Head to the barn to see what happened and get halters, found the new, reinforced latch to the stall (I JUST installed yesterday!) is busted! *sighs* well, here we go. It's a cool morning, they are feeling good, extra freedom, this should be fun(Cause my old girl, has the sense of humor of a professional comedian some days). I Grab a halter, and the girls walk right up to get their morning scratches and make my am easy! I love my girls!

So, after hay stringing the stall door shut (Not sure what I am gonna use now, the girls have obviously mastered the breakout on these latches - this is the third one- and the new one was heavy duty)
Pulled a bunch of weeds and cleaned the house. Now it is chill time!

Hows your day going?

ZTIG said...

I was gonna correct the typos... but decided screw it. Don't care. Ignore 'em. :)

Serendipity said...

Thanks Horspoor, that's not bad at all.

Husband and I are going to be searching for our first property in the next couple years, and as soon as everyone at the barn heard, they were all teasing us to buy a starter horse property for our co-op to move to. I'm not adverse to the idea, but I was having nightmares about $1000/month insurance premiums.

SFTS said...

ZTIG, LOL!! Naughty horses!

Our day here is busy, as usual, and still too darn hot. :-/ Heading back out shortly to get more done, bathing a few horses (mainly to enjoy the water ;) and getting ready for the rest of this evening. After I'm all finished up with the horses, clients and students, I'll be thinking about what to do for dinner ~ I do think it's hubby's turn, but he may not be back from the job he's working on until late, either.

Want to come clean my house? :P Actually, because of the oppressive heat all week (therefore, too much "inside time" time week) and my daughter returning home from Summer vacation to help me, it's pretty clean! :)

BuckdOff said...

Hey folks, just checking in, Congrats on the new house, Roses , sounds awesome, or wicked awesome, as they say around here. The humidity has finally reached us, and is supposed to last all week. We've had no summer here, so if it's sunny at all, I'll be happy.

PrairieFarmer said...

GoLightly -
Hey girl - say WHAT? Criticizing the great PNW weather???? Those are FIGHTING WORDS!
Well, why might JR and CNJ long of the PNW weather? Hmm...Well - currently the national marine forecast has a "severe weather advisory" alert because the PacNW is due to experience a prolonged and extreme heat wave and drought. The high temp predicted for my off-shore location...(Wait for it...).
....82 degrees. That's right - not 182 degrees, but 82 degrees, as in not even 90.
Now, for me - a PacNW born and bred, anything over 68 degrees is getting too hot. I like "sweatsuit" weather. Just comfy in a sweatsuit.
And actually, a lot of folks don't realize this, but typically the PacNW gets very little rain July through September (usually rains on 4th of July, then not much at all the rest of the summer). Where I happen to live, we are in a "rainshadow" created by the Olympic Mountains and we actually get just 18 to 22 inches of rain a year. Seattle is about 36 inches, which actually is less than a lot of places (NY, for instance, is more...).
However, we can have a lot of grey, "damp air" days with mild drizzle. Especially in the spring. And winter has lots of grey days - not much of those sunny blue sky crispy cold days. Just grey and damp.
But I would still take that any day over a place that is typically 100degrees plus in the summer. That just ain't right!

Drsgjunky said...

But we are the top 14 cities with the lowest average sunshine.

Actually, it rains more often, and the cloudiest area in the contential US.

http://www.city-data.com/top2/c475.html

PrairieFarmer said...

Drsgjunky -
This is true...Not a lot of "heat units" as we "farmers" say...
Although this year has been a bit different! I'm actually starting to get ripe tomatoes, and blooms on eggplants! Considering last year my tomato crop consisted of 4 wheelbarrows full of HUGE green tomatoes in late October and usually my eggplants shrivel up and die a week after planting them...(The nightshade family isn't my best crop for sure, except for potatoes, I can do potatoes okay).

Serendipity said...

I'm in upstate NY and we're still waiting for summer to come. It's been rainy and below 82 since our last heat spell, a couple days back in May. In a few weeks, the nights are going to cool off as we start to descend into autumn.

Where is my 2009 summer?!

littledog said...

Dena said: "The last person that took a run like that at one of my kids did some serious time in a locked facility."

Um, apparently that person was you?

littledog said...

OHNO :< Sorry for stirring the turd once again.

PNW weather is really OK--windstorms, but not even close to Katrina. Earthquakes, but nothing compared to California. Once in awhile a tornado (a miniature one every 10 years) nothing like Kansas. Snowstorms- kind of. Floods, well yeah we do get the real thing every year. Volcanoes--still waiting for the big one.
If you like variety but hate both bitter cold and sunburn, this is the place to be. But they're predicting record heat (up to 100 maybe?!) for the next few days.

Dena said...

Littledog since seeing your postings on fshf I could care less what you might think or post.
Just another closet hater from what I saw.

And not a big enough fish to hold my attention.

So why don't you get back in where you fit in?
Which appears to be with SFTS the Phelan Stalker and buckdoff the UK anti-christ.
K? Fair enough?
I am done with you now.

littledog said...

Wow, thank you, I'm so relieved.
ZZZZZZZZZZZ

SFTS said...

Littledog...LMAO

BuckdOff said...

Oh, My Gosh..The Evil Insane Dena...befriended by so many, misunderstood by just about everyone..just called me the UK Anti Christ..because she believes I am Jewish.. Now everyone who cut this woman some slack..here it is in her own words. This is what your "friend" Dena is spewing..you are all welcome to her.

Serendipity said...

BuckdOff- Somehow I just knew she was a 'Good Christian.' She'd have probably called you a kike if she'd known the word, but then we can't expect anything creative from someone who tosses Hitler comparisons around like childish insults.

(I think she was confusing you with me, but I don't live in the UK)

BuckdOff said...

Really, who the heck knows anymore? Serendipity. She is a bitch all right. I just hope the people who have been saying," poor dena is just misunderstood" start to understand that No, she is just full of hatred, no misunderstanding there. I have been the "bad" person, because I didn't like this woman. Got a very bad vibe off of her. Now, watch... she and any supporters, will try to lie their way out of this. Good luck to them.

BuckdOff said...

I can only imagine the kind of crapola she has been spewing out and about on the internet..I feel badly for all of the bloggers that she has offended.

Dena said...

Buckdoff if it is any consolation I do not like you just because of how you present.
And what you present.
And how you try to mislead others.

I could give a fuck less if you were pink and purple with yellow polka dots and worshipped a street lamp.
I do not like you because I think you are a low level form of evil.

Thank God you do not have the weight of credibility to be anything bigger.
I saw your postings many places while looking for other things.

And you may certainly believe and know that you are right that I was disgusted by you long before you started your little campaign against me.

It really is as simple as that. And I so not believe you have any real friends simply because I do not believe that you have any real clue who you are.

I will give you a clue though. A miserably bitter and discontented woman who tries to make a place for herself by trying to hurt others.
And that speaks volumes.

BuckdOff said...

Oh, Please..dena..You are a racist, foul mouthed piece of garbage, who has snowed many a well meaning person into taking pity on you. Then you run with it, making an ass out of yourself and the kind hearted souls who support you. I know what you really are and that's why you are just so bothered by me. This latest rant of yours came right out of the blue, I haven't really addressed you for awhile. You need help, seek medical attention before you are committed. As for friends, I'm normal and have a happy life. and I'm quite credible, obviously..Just keep spewing that very special kind of hatred that you enjoy so much. I want everyone to see what you're really made of...Your words are written right here, I made nothing up. I think you'll find your so called friends will soon scatter.

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